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Martin Tijdgat, op 2015-01-27 06:34:03, zei:
Hai Mich,

Welkom op MT. Kan je deze foto iets bewerken (helderder maken) en in de goede positie opnieuw uploaden?

Veel plezier met vinden, meten, fotograferen en toevoegen monumentale bomen.

Groet, Martin

WiPe, op 2015-01-27 19:59:06, zei:
Vorig jaar is de grond onder de boom gefreesd om daar Rhodo's te planten. Het lijkt er op dat de Ginkgo daar last van ondervindt.
Wim Brinkerink, op 2015-01-29 13:51:14, zei:
Dit is zo'n geval waar ik eerder over berichtte. In Windows 8.1. plaatst de verkenner de foto's automatisch verticaal.! Om hem in de juiste positie te krijgen, moet je de foto eerst met een fotobewerkingsprogramma roteren en opnieuw laden. Pas dan wordt die in de juiste stand zichtbaar.
mich1995, op 2015-02-07 15:17:06, gewijzigd op 2015-02-07 15:17:18, zei:
Helaas krijg de foto niet in de juiste positie.

Mvg Mich

Wim Brinkerink, op 2015-02-08 16:17:31, zei:
Hi Mich, Je kunt met een goed fotoprogramma te foto's eerst 90graden draaien en ze daarna uploaden. Hier heb je een voorbeeld van een dergelijk programma.; Het is veilig. Wel even opletten bij het installeren dat je custom installeert en vinkjes uitzet.
Tim, op 2015-02-09 07:11:19, zei:
Hallo Mich, welkom!

Maak je maar geen zorgen over die gedraaide foto's.

In de toekomst voeg ik een "roteer" knop toe op elke fotopagina zodat je elke reeds geuploade foto gemakkelijk kan draaien. Eens dat er is, kan je deze en andere foto's draaien zonder ze zelf te bewerken en opnieuw te uploaden. Laat deze dus maar gewoon even staan.



mich1995, op 2015-02-11 08:03:25, zei:
Oke bedankt

WiPe, op 2015-01-24 14:46:51, zei:
The variety 'Versicolor hs golden spots on the leaves. But as this foto shows, the spots are not located at the outside of the branches, but a little lower, so the averall look of this tree is not 'versicolor' but rather green.
wwhiteside97, op 2015-01-24 15:08:23, zei:
Thanks, the foliage of the photo I uploaded doesn't really match the photo you uploaded, it has the golden down the middle of the ends of the branches.
WiPe, op 2015-01-27 19:56:45, gewijzigd op 2015-01-27 19:57:23, zei:
I have been checking the images in Van gelderen D.M., Van Hoey Smith J.R.P., Conifers, Timber Press 1996, page 154.

I must admit the description you give fits better to what the images in this book show.

Or, our plant is wrong labeled, or the plant is too much shaded and shows very bad colour.

wwhiteside97, op 2015-01-18 15:35:52, zei:
Name tag says C. Lawsoniana cv. Versicolor... Would this be right? Definitely not the normal type.
Martin Tijdgat, op 2015-01-19 23:21:17, zei:
It is a named cultivar. Declared in 1888 by a Dutch nursery. Shall try to send you a description by mail.
WiPe, op 2015-01-20 17:10:41, zei:
Pyramidal and broad; branches spreading; branchlets spreading, decurving; sprays and leaves green spotted with creamy white or bright yellow. (Den Ouden / Boom;Manual of cultivated Conifers; 1965,Martinus Nijhof, The Hague)

I have seen one before, but this creamy white or bright yellow spots does not seem to be as bright as you might expect by this discription. I will try to add an image on monumental trees later this week.

wwhiteside97, op 2015-01-20 21:38:32, zei:
Thanks, would be appreciated.
Martin Tijdgat, op 2015-01-20 23:22:13, zei:

WiPe did it already. Thanks for that WiPe! Hope this will help. I also tried to find a good picture, but it is hard to find with this very old cultivar. Maybe WiPe can help you with his picture. Greetings, Martin

Conifers, op 2015-01-21 00:01:45, zei:
As an aside, whatever the cultivar, the species is Lawson's Cypress; it doesn't need to stay in the "Tree of undetermined species" section ;-)
wwhiteside97, op 2015-01-21 07:23:58, zei:
Ok thanks, will change it to Lawson Cypress later today.

Polyglot, op 2015-01-20 00:24:31, zei:
I have 1 more picture (of its name tag). I can't understand why I can't upload 3 pictures in one go, or why there is no button on this page to add another picture for this same tree on this page. I won't go throught the whole process again.

The picture can be found here, along with more pictures taken in the arboretum.

It took me more than an hour to add 1 tree for which I still had to add the species.

Polyglot, op 2015-01-20 00:24:44, zei:
Polyglot, op 2015-01-20 00:25:40, zei:
Also, I can't seem to add the variety using the UI. It is var. maximowiozii.
Conifers, op 2015-01-20 00:35:35, zei:
The variety maximowiczii is no longer considered distinct from the type, it is just part of the normal variation in the species.
Polyglot, op 2015-01-20 07:59:38, zei:
I see. I'm not much of a dendrologist. My interest is in adding trees to Openstreetmap. And this one looked quite peculiar, so I tried adding it here.

That tree is in an arboretum, therefore it is tagged, which makes it easier/possible for me to 'determine' what species it is.

If the information on the tag is wrong or deprecated by the time I go over to take a picture, I'm lost, of course.

Should something be changed about this entry? Is there a way to remove var. (which remains empty now) from it?

WiPe, op 2015-01-20 17:03:36, zei:
It is quite a rather small tree to put on monumental trees. There are more interesting plants of this specimen to be found in Belgium

Polyglot, op 2015-01-20 22:33:19, zei:
Maybe one of these days I'll manage to head over to the arboretum in Tervuren, the other ones are out of my reach. I wanted to see what this site is about and how it works, so I looked at some pictures I made, while mapping for Openstreetmap. This one just happened to draw my attention.

Today I found another tree, which actually is monumental, but it would surprise me if somebody else didn't already add it.

I'll go add a link to the pictures I posted on Mapillary of it.

Polyglot, op 2015-01-20 22:36:53, zei:
Maybe one of these days I'll manage to head over to the arboretum in Tervuren, the other ones are out of my reach. I wanted to see what this site is about and how it works, so I looked at some pictures I made, while mapping for Openstreetmap. This one just happened to draw my attention.

Today I found another tree, which actually is monumental, but it would surprise me if somebody else didn't already add it.

I'll go add a link to the pictures I posted on Mapillary of it. (If it ever finishes loading. The speed of this site is driving me nuts)

mammoetboom (Sequoiadendron giganteum) '1445'

Polyglot, op 2015-01-20 22:37:19, zei:
Maybe one of these days I'll manage to head over to the arboretum in Tervuren, the other ones are out of my reach. I wanted to see what this site is about and how it works, so I looked at some pictures I made, while mapping for Openstreetmap. This one just happened to draw my attention.

Today I found another tree, which actually is monumental, but it would surprise me if somebody else didn't already add it.

I'll go add a link to the pictures I posted on Mapillary of it. (If it ever finishes loading. The speed of this site is driving me nuts)

mammoetboom (Sequoiadendron giganteum) '1445'

j1g2a3n4d5e6r, op 2014-07-28 15:43:02, zei:
This church and the yew tree are in the county of Sussex not Surrey. I wish you would amend your records as the facts are incorrect

WiPe, op 2014-07-28 17:30:15, gewijzigd op 2014-07-29 09:11:12, zei:
It appears to me that this record is correct. Can it be possible that you have been confusing Crowhurst, Surrey St. Georges' church and Crowhurst, East Sussex parish churchyard?

j1g2a3n4d5e6r, op 2014-07-29 16:16:14, zei:
I do apologise for my error. Having recently visited the parish church in Crowhurst East Sussex & seen the magnificent oak tree I though that was the one you were referring to. I am amazed that there are 2 churches & villages with the same names & such old oak trees. Once again I am sorry if I have caused confusion but many thanks for your prompt reply.


Jeremy01, op 2014-01-26 22:57:27, zei:
Dear Colleagues

I write to update you on the latest developments concerning the felling of one of Britainís most important heritage trees. The tree was a 187 year old cedar of Lebanon known as The Duke of Wellington Cedar, and it was felled by one of our most respected institutions, The National Trust (

I accept that Britain is far from home for many of you, so please press delete now if you are not interested. However, if you would like to see more, then view a video here which provides some more background and shows one of the trees being felled:

I visited the property while the felling was under way and recorded a video that can be viewed at

Additionally, in order to provide a more factual, balanced and technically credible perspective, I have prepared and published a briefing note that can be accessed at

You can read more about on this blog:

You can also see the National Trust response and public comments at:

For those of us concerned with protecting heritage trees, what is of interest in this case is how we have managed to utilize modern media through the video and YouTube to organize the substantial support necessary to give us a credible platform to complain about the behaviour of a very big organisation. The National Trust is a 4 million strong member organisation and one of the biggest landowners in Europe, so it does not readily listen to lone voices. However, through this video and the voting mechanism that allows Ďlikesí and Ďdislikesí to be recorded, we have generated nearly 5,000 hits so far, which is uneard of in Britain.

We have used this mandate to write to The Trust with a view to preventing future losses of these irreplaceable living heritage assets. It remains to be seen how successful this will be, but it would be great if you could lend your support by viewing and voting on the video.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope that you will be able join me in giving heritage trees a voice. You can keep up to date with events as they unfold through my Facebook page at

Many thanks

Jeremy Barrell

Jeroen Philippona, op 2014-01-26 23:37:15, zei:
Hi Jeremy,

We had already remarked the felling of these Cedars, see: (start was in Dutch). Actually that was because of your action on Youtube.

Also the trees were already with photos on this website.

There are some English men very active at this website, among who Owen Johnson of the Tree Register of the British Isles and several Dutch and Flemish guys have visited the UK often and put information and photos of trees at this website.

I was at Kingston Lacy in July last summer and am very dissapointent these great trees have been cut now. My wife and I rested some time under the Duke of Wellington Cedar and never had the feeling this was a risky tree.

Also it is very distrusting that the National Trust has done this, it seems to give a precedent for many landowners to cut trees wich could give some risk.

Very good you have started this action and I hope it will get a lot of attention and awareness of the people as well as the National Trust and other landowners. Did you get responce from official organisations wich deal with the conservation of trees and landscapes?

I asked Owen Johnson and David Alderman of the Tree Register by E-mail about their opinion on the felling of the Cedars, but till now they did not respond.

I wish you a lot of success with your battle for a better preservation of monumental and heritage trees!

Best regards,

Jeroen Philippona

Contact person of the Dutch "Bomenstichting" (Tree Foundation of the Netherlands).

Jeremy01, op 2014-01-27 08:40:48, zei:
Good morning Jeroen

Thank you for your quick response. I was not sure if you knew that the tree had been felled, especially as you had such good photogrpahs on your website of it.

The video has now had nearly 5,000 views and we are trying to use this support to engage with The National Trust to see if we can get it to agree a more appropriate management approach to other important trees it owns, but it is not responding at the moment. We will continue to try, and I will keep you updated on pgoress, but in the meantime, the more people that view the video and support it, the stronger our argument to The Trust that is should take notice.

Thank you for your support and for the great work you are doing with your website.


Han van Meegeren, op 2014-01-27 17:26:59, zei:
Hi Jeremy

Keep up the good work. It's a shame they did put down a tree like this one.

If you can't trust the National Trust?

Greetings from Holland, Han van Meegeren

WiPe, op 2014-01-31 19:19:07, zei:
What about the Arboricultural Assosiation? What is their opinion in this act?

Jeremy01, op 2014-02-02 10:30:20, zei:
Han & WiPe

Thank you for your support. The Dutch have been very interested in this tree, which is great to see. Regarding organisations taking a lead in complaining to the National Trust, it is always more difficult for them to speak out because they need the support of their members and not all will be in agreement with my position. It seems that individuals need to lead the way and hopefully any support that we can gather will draw in wider support from organisations. It should also be remembered that the National Trust do very good work generally, but something clearly went wrong in this case. I have written to the Director General and Chairman, and we need to see if there is a positive response. This tree is now lost, and our focus now needs to be on making sure other great trees are not lost in the same way. I think we can do it, but it will take time and support from around the world. So thank you all for your support and we will keep working on this.


RedRob, op 2013-12-02 18:11:31, zei:

This corresponds with the big Chinese Fir, great speciman, never seen one remotely near this size. What will be the potential tallest height in the UK?

Conifers, op 2013-12-02 20:45:11, zei:
Actually a Cunninghamia, not a fir (Abies). There used to be one at Bicton in Devon 30m tall, but I recollect reading it's no longer there.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, op 2013-12-02 22:35:38, zei:
The Mount Usher tree slightly exceeds a number of good ones in the old gardens of Devon and Cornwall. This is a conifer from well south in China, so it likes a warm but humid growing season, and not too much winter frost. We cannot really match these conditions in Britain or Ireland, so it is always going to be a bit of a disappointment besides its redwood allies.

WiPe, op 2013-12-03 08:47:01, zei:
In Belgium, the largest Cunninghamia lanceolata grows in Beisbroek park,near Brugge. According to the inventarisation of the Belgian dendrological society, the trees has a heigth of 23 m and a girth of 233 cm.

Image loading faster
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Tim, op 2013-11-14 09:51:58, zei:

today I made the loading of the image pages faster.

Individual photos (the pages with the rating on and other image details) should now load faster, which should make it more fun to browse through the photos.

Kind regards,


TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, op 2013-11-15 19:14:48, zei:
This has made a real difference in the time it takes to upload photos - thanks.

I have found that the site crashes most frequently when I have recorded a new tree at a new site and, instead of getting the new site's webpage, I get a '404' error message: 'The requested URL was not found on this server'. I don't know if this is an issue that can be fixed, or if it is a communications failure with Google Maps. The only way around this I can find is to press the 'go back' button, enter the tree again, and then I get the new site's webpage showing the same tree entered twice with successive identification numbers (I then delete one of these). I am sorry if this technical English is not easy to understand!

If anyone can suggest an easier way of escaping the crash, I'd be interested to hear.


Tim, op 2013-11-16 10:27:44, zei:
Hi Owen,

this sounds like an easy error to fix. I tried to reproduce the error by registering a new tree at a new site, but "sadly" everything went fine.

If you would encounter this again, could you be so kind to send me the url of the 404 page and the location where you were trying to add a tree? I prefer technical English :) - the more details, the better - as often most of my time is spent trying to find out what somebody meant with "adding the tree didn't work", instead of fixing it and making sure it cannot happen again. Urls are the best way.

Kind regards,


WiPe, op 2013-11-17 19:05:02, gewijzigd op 2013-11-17 19:13:15, zei:

I had this problem before. I tried to register a new tree and got the same error

404 Not Found

The requested URL /nl/fra/querqueville/7644_eglisenotredameetchapellesaintgermain/ was not found on this server.

the URL is



Henk Eshuis, op 2013-11-17 20:45:47, zei:
Hi Tim

I also have the same problem when adding a new place here. When I got the not found error, the tree added is visible on the recent changes page. I used to go there, click the tree just added at a new place and then continue adding measurements and photos. When adding a second tree, so without creating a new place, there is no problem.



Tim, op 2013-11-18 09:15:25, zei:
Thanks for the detailed messages. I'll try to look at this still this week.

Kind regards,


Need help to identify
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jamesjzob, op 2013-10-27 03:10:29, zei:
I have a cross (not ordinary) but made from some short of branch that was given to me over 20 years ago. I was told that this was made from a rare tree grown only in can I find out if this is the truth

Conifers, op 2013-10-27 11:21:03, zei:
There are no trees that occur only in Switzerland, as very similar habitats with no barriers to plant colonisation are also found in the Alps in France, Italy, Austria, etc.

Perhaps the most likely tree is Pinus cembra.

WiPe, op 2013-10-27 15:47:39, zei:
Determination of wood can be done in a xylarium likt the one in Tervuren (Belgium) or the wood database CWAR in Madison, Wisconsin

You can also browse their collections and compare the wood of your cross with the images on this sites.

Zelf mammoetbomen kweken
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lievestas, op 2013-08-25 15:07:43, zei:
Ik ben zo net op uw site beland.

Ik zelf heb een sequoia boom ongeveer 20 jaar geleden gekocht.

Hij heeft al een hele hoogte bereikt.

De naalden beginnen onderaan bruin te worden en verder naar boven toe.

Ik vrees dat ik hem zal verliezen.

Kunt u mij enige raad geven waardoor hij als nog gered kan worden?

mvg L. Stas.

Leo Goudzwaard, op 2013-08-25 18:31:24, zei:
heel veel water geven en eind oktober in de volle grond planten, mocht hij nog in een pot staan.

lievestas, op 2013-08-25 19:38:06, zei:
Dank voor de snelle reaktie ivm de mammoetboom

Hij staat in volle grond, al zo'n 20 jaar.

Kan ik eventueel voeding of meststof geven of is het toch de droogte.

Besproei ik dan de boom of voornamelijk de grond?

Dank en groeten, L. Stas.

Leo Goudzwaard, op 2013-08-26 07:44:51, zei:
mest is niet nodig, zelfs onwenselijk, maar wel heel veel water geven, vooral langdurig zodat het water diep in de bodem kan dringen. In de grond natuurlijk want daarin zitten de wortels.

Frank, op 2013-08-26 15:16:11, zei:

het is een droog jaar geweest. De Sequoias beginnen daarom vroeger de oude naalden te verliezen. Dat is een natuurlijke process: brown out. Water is goed, maar ook niet te veel. Afhankelijk van de grond. Te veel op een zware goed water houdende grond gaat problemen met Botrytis opleveren.

In ieder geval niet meer doen. Meestal komen de bomen zelf tegen aan. Het zou ook helpen hier enkele fotos intestellen.


Groeten uit Duitsland van een Sequoiavriend,


lievestas, op 2013-08-26 19:02:08, zei:
Leo en Frank,

allebei heel veel dank voor de reaktie.

Ik zal alvast beginnen met water geven, de boom staat in kleigrond. In de zomer bij droog, warm weer, wordt die grond keihard, in de andere (natte) seizoenen is hij "papperig en smeuÔg". Rond de stam groeit bodembedekking (hondsdraf), misschien kan ik die best verwijderen. Ik zag op foto's dat de bomen onderaan geen takken hebben terwijl ik die nooit verwijdert heb?

Ik hou jullie op de hoogte van het verder verloop, ik vermoed dat het enige tijd zal vragen.

Dank en groeten, L. Stas?

Leo Goudzwaard, op 2013-08-27 13:13:50, zei:
bodembedekking is goed voor de boom

WiPe, op 2013-09-02 12:43:27, gewijzigd op 2013-09-03 18:35:13, zei:
Je kan best een dunne laag goed verteerde kompost onder de boom leggen, dat helpt tegen het uitdrogen van de bodem, maar maakt ook de zware kleigrond wat lichter. Je mag die kompost gerust een tot twee meter voorbij de kruin uitspreiden. Bodembedekking met hondsdraf is zeer goed, stukken beter dan gras.

lievestas, op 2013-09-02 17:54:17, zei:
Dag Allemaal,

Dank voor jullie reacties.

De bruin-rosse kleur zit al tot boven, niet zo sterk als onderaan, daar is minstens 1 tak helemaal verkleurd.

Zou het beter zijn de onderste takken af te zagen zodat de stam daar zichtbaar wordt, nu hangen de takken namelijk tot op de grond. Ik vind trouwens dat de stam ook een beetje "rossig" wordt! (zou dat suggestie zijn!).

Over enkele weken komt mijn zoon, die kan foto's nemen om rechtstreeks naar deze site door te sturen, ik bezit namelijk niet zo'n toestel.

Groeten, Lieve Stas.

lievestas, op 2013-09-24 17:55:59, zei:
Dag allemaal,

Ik probeer foto's door te sturen van de segoia-boom waarover ik reeds berichtte.

Het lukt mij niet via deze site.

Kan ik eventueel een E-mail adres krijgen waarnaar ik ze kan sturen of heeft u richtlijnen om het alsnog langs deze pagina te doen?

Dank en groeten, L. Stas.

WiPe, op 2013-09-24 18:12:38, zei:
Je kan best de boom op de site toevoegen en dan foto's uploaden. Dan kan je daarnaar verwijzen op deze overlegpagina.

De knoppen om een boom toe te voegen staan rechts bovenaan de pagina.




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