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Scholem Alejchem, à 2015-01-29 16:37:01, édité à 2015-01-29 16:44:03, a dit:
Liebe Leute

Leider mußte ich heute feststellen, daß alle großen Bäume im Kurpark, der Geldgier des Besitzers zum Opfer fielen. Irgendwie war ich der Tränen nahe, da es sich um einen der ersten Plätze handelt, den ich in MT reinstellte.

Möge den Besitzer der Blitz beim Scheissen treffen!


PS: Die großen (7-8 m) von Petronell sind angeblich auch weg, muß ich aber erst überprüfen

Martin Tijdgat, à 2015-01-27 06:34:03, a dit:
Hai Mich,

Welkom op MT. Kan je deze foto iets bewerken (helderder maken) en in de goede positie opnieuw uploaden?

Veel plezier met vinden, meten, fotograferen en toevoegen monumentale bomen.

Groet, Martin

WiPe, à 2015-01-27 19:59:06, a dit:
Vorig jaar is de grond onder de boom gefreesd om daar Rhodo's te planten. Het lijkt er op dat de Ginkgo daar last van ondervindt.
Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-29 13:51:14, a dit:
Dit is zo'n geval waar ik eerder over berichtte. In Windows 8.1. plaatst de verkenner de foto's automatisch verticaal.! Om hem in de juiste positie te krijgen, moet je de foto eerst met een fotobewerkingsprogramma roteren en opnieuw laden. Pas dan wordt die in de juiste stand zichtbaar.

Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-28 14:58:50, a dit:
prachtige knothaagbeuk in het Meerdaelwoud, dit is geen meerstammige boom, dus kun je wijzigen, altijd leuk om in het vervolg omtrek te meten, Leo

WiPe, à 2015-01-24 14:46:51, a dit:
The variety 'Versicolor hs golden spots on the leaves. But as this foto shows, the spots are not located at the outside of the branches, but a little lower, so the averall look of this tree is not 'versicolor' but rather green.
wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-24 15:08:23, a dit:
Thanks, the foliage of the photo I uploaded doesn't really match the photo you uploaded, it has the golden down the middle of the ends of the branches.
WiPe, à 2015-01-27 19:56:45, édité à 2015-01-27 19:57:23, a dit:
I have been checking the images in Van gelderen D.M., Van Hoey Smith J.R.P., Conifers, Timber Press 1996, page 154.

I must admit the description you give fits better to what the images in this book show.

Or, our plant is wrong labeled, or the plant is too much shaded and shows very bad colour.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2015-01-23 18:41:35, a dit:
This is probably the yew that was reported as 364cm girth for Loudon's Arboretum et Fruticetum Britannicum in 1835-7. 'Rediscovring' a tree after a 180 years' gap doesn't happen every day - well done!

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-23 22:06:39, édité à 2015-01-23 23:45:53, a dit:
This is very interesting, I will upload a picture of the tree if this would help. Would you have any idea whereabouts in this book that it mentions this yew tree? I have been looking through the book online for the past hour and a half and I couldn't find anything mentioning Gosford... Although I could be looking at the wrong volume perhaps?

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2015-01-24 19:42:38, a dit:
There are four volumes of text in Arboretum et Fruticetum Britannicum (and four of illustrations). A few years ago when I added the trees in them to the Tree Register, all were available online through Google Books, but last time I looked I was only able to find later editions of one or two of the volumes. I think the species are arranged family by family but I can't remember which volume Taxus is in. Under Taxus baccata there should be a long list of specimens measured by Loudon's corespondents, arranged in approximate geographical order. Having said that, the records for Taxus had already been imput onto the Tree Register by Alan Mitchell many years ago and I didn't check through them all, so it's just possible that an error has crept in somewhere. Let's hope not, as the match seems such a good one!

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-24 22:11:39, a dit:

I found the long list of recorded trees, there is a mention of Gosford but it is Gosford House in Edinburgh, however, I don't think the measurements for this tree in Edinburgh match the 364cm that you mentioned.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2015-01-26 18:54:52, a dit:
It must have been the Scottish Gosford. We had problems when we were transferring Alan's card-index register onto computer when different sites shared the same name. There may in this case have been a mix-up between girth and diameter as well. A pity as it would have been good to find a previous record for your big yew.

Alberto C F, à 2015-01-26 15:02:59, a dit:
The stature of the person in the picture is 1,86 m

La estatura de la persona de la foto es 1,86 m

John D Harvey, à 2015-01-26 00:30:27, a dit:
I doubt these are the exact coordinates of the tree. Although it is a nice little patch of old growth.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2015-01-25 02:18:45, a dit:
Stunning picture, great colors. Thanks!
Alberto C F, à 2015-01-25 11:15:36, a dit:
Thanks Martin!

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-20 15:50:01, a dit:
On the left is the foliage of a neighbouring common yew, showing the difference in foliage between that of the common yew and this tree.
Conifers, à 2015-01-20 17:56:37, a dit:
Looks like just a long-leaved cultivar of Common Yew ;-)
wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-20 18:12:14, a dit:
Thanks for this, didn't know there was a long leaved cultivar of the common Yew, bark is still different to other Yew trees though.
Martin Tijdgat, à 2015-01-20 18:14:27, a dit:
WW and Conifers,

Longer leafs, more pointed leafs. I don't know the species, but is Taxus chinensis possible?

Greetings, Martin Tijdgat

foomanz, à 2015-01-20 21:11:18, a dit:
If the fruit suggests a Podocarpaceae, then perhaps a Prumnopitys sp (sometimes called yew pines, along with Podocarpus macrophyllus). I'm not familiar with old world candidates.



wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-20 21:36:17, a dit:
Matt and Martin,

I will have a closer look at the tree tomorrow, it is very yew like in appearance but the leaves are nearly twice as long as the common yew and the bark is definitely softer than that of the common yew, you can peel tufts of it off.

Conifers, à 2015-01-20 23:59:13, a dit:
I've seen one or more (un-named) Taxus baccata cultivar(s) with leaves this long. But the soft bark is odd; that doesn't fit any Taxus well. Cones ('berries') would help, if there are any, but January isn't a good time (and even in autumn, there's still a 50% chance it might be male!).

It isn't Prumnopitys andinus, and I doubt any other species in this genus either.

WiPe, à 2015-01-21 08:22:16, édité à 2015-01-21 13:02:43, a dit:
Prumnopitys and Cephalotaxus can be easily recognised when bending te leaves. When you bend them, and they break when bended completely, it will be most probably Prumnopitys or Cephalotaxus. If not, yu can exclude both genera.

Prumnopitys also has pale stomata where those of Taxus are green.

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-21 12:22:43, a dit:
Conifers, I will have a look for any signs of fruit or cones, but as you say it might be the wrong type of year for it.

WiPe, I will bend the leaves then to see and I'll have a look at the stomata, thanks for this.

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-21 12:26:29, a dit:
Conifers, the bark is softish and as I mentioned before you can also peel bits of it off in tufts, definitely not smooth or Flaky as common Yew is, especially for a tree this age.
Conifers, à 2015-01-21 17:45:13, a dit:
Keep a look out for pollen cones too - they should be in bud or just starting to open at this time of year. Taxus scattered or in rows on the underside of the shoot, Cephalotaxus in dense rows on the underside of the shoot, Prumnopitys in stalked clusters.
WiPe, à 2015-01-21 18:57:54, a dit:
I have added a foto of the stem of Prumnopitys andina. This stem is only 17 cm circumference, thus rather small.

In my opninion this tree is far to young to call it a monumental tree. i have just added fot your help on this one. I will not keep it on the side but for a few days.

I have also added an image of the backside of the needles. The needles are hardly bigger as those of Taxus baccata.

Conifers, à 2015-01-21 23:07:14, édité à 2015-01-21 23:07:40, a dit:
Prumnopitys andina again (at RBG Edinburgh), a male plant with pollen cone panicles developing bottom centre and right:


wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-22 15:30:58, a dit:
Underside of P. Andina leaves look similar but the picture of the foliage from RBG Edinburgh shows no similarities, I will check the pollen cones this afternoon.
wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-22 18:15:13, a dit:
Hello all, I've uploaded 2 images of what I found under the shoots on one of the branches.
Conifers, à 2015-01-23 00:28:54, a dit:
Thanks! Those are dried-out / undeveloped Taxus seed 'cones'; so definitely a yew; most likely a cultivar of Taxus baccata, given the rarity of other yews in cultivation.
wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-23 01:05:29, a dit:
Thanks! This would make sense as the tree is definitely very yew like in appearance and I actually thought it was a Yew until the other day when I decided to have a walk underneath it and found it to be slightly different.
Martin Tijdgat, à 2015-01-23 01:26:34, a dit:
WW and Conifers,

So it is no longer an undetermined species, but "a" Taxus. Taxus baccata, Taxus x media, or another Taxus? Is there a picture of the whole tree?

WiPe, à 2015-01-23 13:56:50, a dit:
Taxus celebica??? http://www.worldbotanical.com/taxus_celebica.htm

Or maybe another species from Taxus-sumatrana group???


Conifers, à 2015-01-23 18:28:19, a dit:
Not Taxus sumatrana (syn. T. celebica); that has different, very distinctive foliage. I'd stick with a T. baccata cultivar.

As an aside, that www.worldbotanical.com website is highly unreliable, splits Taxus up into a multitude of "species" on the flimsiest of evidence; it is not accepted by any other taxonomists.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2015-01-23 18:58:23, a dit:
I can't add to this thread, other than to remark that Taxus cuspidata seems to be the only other Taxus that wants to reach tree-size in Britain/Ireland, and that the bark of the big old one at Borde Hill is a bit sponger and browner than common Yew, but the leaves are no bigger.
wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-24 15:58:16, a dit:
Wouldn't be sure with the foliage of T. Cuspidata but the spongier bark sounds familiar. I wouldn't feel confident in distinguishing between the pair, are there any known cultivars of T. Baccata with spongier bark?

robur73, à 2012-10-27 20:45:37, a dit:
Beautiful tree. Thanks.
Tim, à 2015-01-24 15:42:16, a dit:
Hi Joel,

would you be able to correct the coordinates of this tree?

You can do this by clicking on the the coordinates in the right column, and then clicking on the icon on the map.



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Tim, à 2015-01-24 12:59:24, a dit:
Hi Temink,

welcome at the site.

Do you perhaps know the exact position of the tree at Doddington Hall?

You can change the coordinates of a tree by clicking on the tree's icon on the map.



TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2015-01-23 18:52:45, a dit:
Unlike the other one this is Betula pubescens, Downy Birch (the commoner native birch species except on sandy soil). You can tell by the bark which remains fairly evenly coloured and thin at the base - rugged black base for B. pendula.

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-23 22:03:00, a dit:
Thanks, will change it to B. Pubescens now.

Nardo Kaandorp, à 2015-01-20 20:59:17, a dit:
Beste Smal65,

Bedankt voor het ontrafelen van de identiteit van deze boom. Ik had hem al een paar keer gezien, maar geen idee wat het was. De eerste van zijn soort op MT. Kende je deze soort?

smal65, à 2015-01-22 19:28:28, a dit:
We kwamen deze soort tegen tijdens een excursie van de NDV (Nederlandse dendrologische vereniging). Degene die de excursie leidde wist deze boom te vinden. In het arboretum Trompenburg in Rotterdam staat de soort ook, alleen veel kleiner.
Nardo Kaandorp, à 2015-01-22 19:47:43, a dit:
Kijk dat zijn nog eens leerzame excursies. Had ik ook bij willen zijn. Hoe oud zou de boom zijn? Ik kwam nog een oude meting van mij tegen van een "raar sparretje" dd 9-12-2010. De omtrek was toen 2,49m bij een hoogte van 15,6m
Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-22 19:51:22, a dit:
Geweldig zo'n groot exemplaar van deze zeldzame soort. Ik ken o.a. een fraai ex. van Torreya californica in het pinetum van Schovenhorst, maar is nog te klein voor MT.

Met deze Torreya en gisteren de zachte berk zijn nu al 187 soorten in NL met een ex. dikker dan 2 meter; op naar de 200!

Nardo Kaandorp, à 2015-01-22 20:08:38, a dit:
Nog 13 te gaan! Ik hoop dat ik er ook nog 1 van mag ontdekken. Hoe schat jij de leeftijd in Leo?
Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-23 16:15:29, a dit:
leeftijd is niet te schatten, want ik heb geen referentie voor deze soort. Nardo zet je die oude meting er nog op?

Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-22 19:37:34, a dit:
This is not the common Juniper (J. communis), but probably an old Juniperus x media 'Pfitzeriana'.

Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-23 09:45:22, a dit:
Dank Leo, Ik heb hem even gegoogled en dat geeft hetzelfde resultaat. Vind je hem interessant genoeg om hier te laten staan?

Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-23 16:07:49, a dit:
hoi Wim, ja hoor, het is een oudje, dus interessant.

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franktip, à 2014-12-14 18:04:11, a dit:
As I was reading the section on sequoia trees outside their natural range, I noticed that there was no information about sequoia trees in Africa. I can confirm that they exist: I was recently in South Africa where I visited the Stellenbosch University Botanical Garden in the city of Stellenbosch, where they have a giant sequoia growing side-by-side with a california redwood. Unfortunately, I did not take any pictures, but the trees are mentioned on the garden's wikipedia entry:


Tim B, à 2015-01-23 10:34:43, a dit:
Hi Frank,

I added the tree: Stellenbosch University Botanical Garden

Can you check the exact coordinate on the map? (It can be changed by clicking on the marker)

Probably I placed the icon close to the tree anyway as it is a very small botanical garden, but I couldn't see the tree on Streetview or on the satellite imagery.

Kind regards,


franktip, à 2015-01-23 14:11:23, a dit:
Hi Tim,

Thanks for adding the tree! I am glad to have contributed in this small way.

The location looks approximately right. I don't remember enough of the garden's layout

to pinpoint it further, but this will certainly be good enough because, as you said,

the garden is quite small, and it is hard to overlook a giant sequoia :-) As I recall,

there is a coast redwood right next to it, which is somewhat amusing.

I wonder if there are more sequoia's elsewhere in South AFrica. I didn't see any

in the (very large and beautiful) Kirstenbosch Gardens, but that is to be expected

because that place is focused on indigenous trees and plants.

best regards,


Tim B, à 2015-01-23 10:36:53, a dit:
Hi Felipe,

that is an amazing photograph!

Welcome at the site. If there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask.

Kind regards,


Tim, à 2015-01-22 16:19:24, a dit:
Hallo Juglans30,

heb je toevallig een foto van deze notenboom?



Samenvoegen bomen landgoed Elswout Overveen
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Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-20 10:22:59, a dit:
Hallo Henk,

Landgoed Elswout in Overveen komt 2x voor op deze site. Het lijkt me beter als die worden samengevoegd. Jij hebt een drietal bomen opgevoerd en Jeroen Philippona en Leo Goudzwaard hebben een andere opgevoerd. Ik heb daar later nog wat bomen aan toegevoegd. De registratie door Jeroen en Leo is ouder. Zou jij jouw registraties willen toevoegen aan die andere site?. En als je daar niet toe komt, heb je er dan bezwaar tegen dat ik of een ander dat doet?.

Vriendelijke groet

Wim Brinkerink

Henk van Boeschoten, à 2015-01-21 13:43:39, a dit:
Dag Wim, ...zal ze verplaatsen. Ben al een tijd niet meer actief op de site. Ga dit binnenkort inhalen. Heb weer prachtige reizen in Wales en Engeland achter de rug. Overigens, ik ben opgegroeid op het landgoed Elswout, ik ken er elke struik en boom. Met vriendelijke groet Henk van Boeschoten.

Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-21 18:16:53, a dit:
Dank alvast. Interessant. Elswout is een mooi landgoed. Helaas recent een paar monumentale bomen gesneuveld.

Ben benieuwd naar je nieuwe foto's uit Engeland en Wales.



Jeroen Philippona, à 2015-01-21 23:12:07, édité à 2015-01-21 23:14:52, a dit:
Hallo Henk en Wim,

Leuk dat Henk er is opgegroeid. Mijn vader woonde vanaf eind jaren dertig in de Bloemveldlaan in het Ramplaankwartier vlakbij Elswout, mijn opa en oma woonden er nog tot 1970. Vanaf mijn eerste stapjes ben ik zeer veel in Elswout geweest; indertijd moest je er een wandelkaart voor hebben. Aanvankelijk vond ik de roodbonte stamboekkoeien en de waterpartijen het mooiste, later gingen de bomen me ook opvallen. Wellicht kwam ik Henk er wel eens tegen; ik ben in 1955 geboren.

Bijzonder landgoed, helaas zijn inderdaad nogal wat oudere bomen gesneuveld.

Groeten, Jeroen

Henk van Boeschoten, à 2015-01-22 10:47:36, a dit:
Ha...wat leuk Jeroen. Als kind woonde ik eerst aan het sluisje, Elswoutslaan 10 dat was eind jaren 50. Daarna verhuisden wij naar het poortgebouw. ik heb daar tot 1969 gewoond. De beuken a/d oprijlaan heb ik zien planten door mijn vader. Verder staan er enkele exemplaren die door ons gepoot zijn. De plek waar de wonderboom heeft gestaan is mij door mijn vader aangewezen, toen het beeld Halali verplaats werd, heb ik geholpen het in de menie te zetten (vond ik interessant) de replica (paneel) van het huisje van Kabuur heb ik in 1964 zien schilderen.... enz enz... ach mooooie tijden van weleer.... Bijzonder dat jij daar eveneens al jong mens van genoten hebt. ik kom er nog geregeld..!! Groetje...

Verzameling bomen op één lokatie
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Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-16 19:58:37, a dit:
Hallo Tim,

Ik heb een paar bomen in Velsen Zuid op het landgoed Waterland toegevoegd. Nu blijken de bomen allemaal afzonderlijk te voorschijn te komen in het totaal overzicht onder Velsen-Zuid. Leek me nuttig je dit te melden.



Wim Brinkerink

Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-16 22:19:23, a dit:
Dank voor je snelle reactie.

Tim B, à 2015-01-21 11:20:46, a dit:
Hallo Wim,

wat is het probleem precies?

Op http://www.monumentaltrees.com/nl/nld/noordholland/velsen/ zie ik slechts één regel "landgoed Waterland".



Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-21 16:19:46, a dit:
Ik dacht dat jij het had opgelost.... Het probleem was dat ik 3 bomen toevoegde op één locatie. Er kwamen echter 3 afzonderlijke bomen met drie locaties tevoorschijn. Dus ze werden niet aan één locatie toegevoegd maar behandeld als 3 afzonderlijke locaties. Nadat ik jou had gemailed waren de bomen gewoon verzameld.

Tim B, à 2015-01-21 16:34:18, a dit:
Ik had er niets mee te maken hoor. Problemen die zich zelf oplossen, mijn favoriete soort :)



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patricia, à 2015-01-09 23:25:08, a dit:
Greetings from Vermont

I was wondering how one could identify the trees that are featured on your home page. I do not find a caption under the photograph.

I love this site. You have put together a valuable place for all.

Thank you

Tim B, à 2015-01-21 11:22:40, a dit:
Hi Patricia,

thanks for your reply. Sadly enough it is not possible to know which tree the cover photo depicts (unless you recognize it), but it is a good point. I'll add a caption or "hover message".

Kind regards,


patricia, à 2015-01-21 15:19:52, a dit:
Hello Tim

Many thanks for your reply!

I so enjoy the website and I check it several times a day. In fact it is helping me to plan trips to places of natural beauty and culture! I hope to add a tree or two of my own to the site some day soon.

All the best from Vermont, US

Patricia Vincent

Jeroen Philippona, à 2015-01-17 22:23:14, a dit:
Bij deze gezellige picknick onder de Schone Eik in het Zoniënwoud zijn onder andere te herkennen: Tim Bekaert, Marc Meyer, Leo Goudzwaard en Han van Meegeren.
Tim B, à 2015-01-21 11:24:05, a dit:
Dat klopt. Dat was een geslaagde bomenbijeenkomst!



How did you find the trees in Santa Fe?
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pw3, à 2015-01-18 05:38:08, a dit:
Hi, Tim. I just found MonumentalTrees.com and think it is amazing. It led me to some giant sequoias in Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA (http://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/usa/newmexico/santafecounty/) that I visited just today (and added photos and one measurements of!).

I was wondering, though, how did you find these trees in Santa Fe? (It looks like the info for most of them was added by you.) Did you visit there? Do you know if there are any other sequoias in New Mexico? And how would you suggest I find them?

Thanks so much,


Tim B, à 2015-01-21 11:23:33, a dit:
Hi Patrick,

I have never been in Santa Fe, and I remember adding this one as a technical test.

I found it just by googling around a bit.

Kind regards,


wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-18 15:35:52, a dit:
Name tag says C. Lawsoniana cv. Versicolor... Would this be right? Definitely not the normal type.
Martin Tijdgat, à 2015-01-19 23:21:17, a dit:
It is a named cultivar. Declared in 1888 by a Dutch nursery. Shall try to send you a description by mail.
WiPe, à 2015-01-20 17:10:41, a dit:
Pyramidal and broad; branches spreading; branchlets spreading, decurving; sprays and leaves green spotted with creamy white or bright yellow. (Den Ouden / Boom;Manual of cultivated Conifers; 1965,Martinus Nijhof, The Hague)

I have seen one before, but this creamy white or bright yellow spots does not seem to be as bright as you might expect by this discription. I will try to add an image on monumental trees later this week.

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-20 21:38:32, a dit:
Thanks, would be appreciated.
Martin Tijdgat, à 2015-01-20 23:22:13, a dit:

WiPe did it already. Thanks for that WiPe! Hope this will help. I also tried to find a good picture, but it is hard to find with this very old cultivar. Maybe WiPe can help you with his picture. Greetings, Martin

Conifers, à 2015-01-21 00:01:45, a dit:
As an aside, whatever the cultivar, the species is Lawson's Cypress; it doesn't need to stay in the "Tree of undetermined species" section ;-)
wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-21 07:23:58, a dit:
Ok thanks, will change it to Lawson Cypress later today.

Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 22:47:00, a dit:
For more pictures of this tree, I took some which I posted here:

You can use the up/down arrows. There are several pictures of the tree, but since I'm a mapper, I also took many other pictures so the pictures of the tree are distributed over the sequence.


Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 00:24:31, a dit:
I have 1 more picture (of its name tag). I can't understand why I can't upload 3 pictures in one go, or why there is no button on this page to add another picture for this same tree on this page. I won't go throught the whole process again.

The picture can be found here, along with more pictures taken in the arboretum.

It took me more than an hour to add 1 tree for which I still had to add the species.

Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 00:24:44, a dit:
Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 00:25:40, a dit:
Also, I can't seem to add the variety using the UI. It is var. maximowiozii.
Conifers, à 2015-01-20 00:35:35, a dit:
The variety maximowiczii is no longer considered distinct from the type, it is just part of the normal variation in the species.
Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 07:59:38, a dit:
I see. I'm not much of a dendrologist. My interest is in adding trees to Openstreetmap. And this one looked quite peculiar, so I tried adding it here.

That tree is in an arboretum, therefore it is tagged, which makes it easier/possible for me to 'determine' what species it is.

If the information on the tag is wrong or deprecated by the time I go over to take a picture, I'm lost, of course.

Should something be changed about this entry? Is there a way to remove var. (which remains empty now) from it?

WiPe, à 2015-01-20 17:03:36, a dit:
It is quite a rather small tree to put on monumental trees. There are more interesting plants of this specimen to be found in Belgium


Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 22:33:19, a dit:
Maybe one of these days I'll manage to head over to the arboretum in Tervuren, the other ones are out of my reach. I wanted to see what this site is about and how it works, so I looked at some pictures I made, while mapping for Openstreetmap. This one just happened to draw my attention.

Today I found another tree, which actually is monumental, but it would surprise me if somebody else didn't already add it.

I'll go add a link to the pictures I posted on Mapillary of it.

Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 22:36:53, a dit:
Maybe one of these days I'll manage to head over to the arboretum in Tervuren, the other ones are out of my reach. I wanted to see what this site is about and how it works, so I looked at some pictures I made, while mapping for Openstreetmap. This one just happened to draw my attention.

Today I found another tree, which actually is monumental, but it would surprise me if somebody else didn't already add it.

I'll go add a link to the pictures I posted on Mapillary of it. (If it ever finishes loading. The speed of this site is driving me nuts)

séquoia géant (Sequoiadendron giganteum) '1445'

Polyglot, à 2015-01-20 22:37:19, a dit:
Maybe one of these days I'll manage to head over to the arboretum in Tervuren, the other ones are out of my reach. I wanted to see what this site is about and how it works, so I looked at some pictures I made, while mapping for Openstreetmap. This one just happened to draw my attention.

Today I found another tree, which actually is monumental, but it would surprise me if somebody else didn't already add it.

I'll go add a link to the pictures I posted on Mapillary of it. (If it ever finishes loading. The speed of this site is driving me nuts)

séquoia géant (Sequoiadendron giganteum) '1445'

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-19 16:55:30, a dit:
The foilage is yew like only the leaves are bigger, and thicker as well, the bark is also softish and can easily be torn off...
Conifers, à 2015-01-20 00:34:05, a dit:
Foliage pics, please!!
foomanz, à 2015-01-20 01:03:11, a dit:
Foliage at http://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/photos/38080/

The bark and trunk are very consistant with P. totara. P. cunninghami has much thinner, papery bark.

P. acutifolius, P. totara x acutifolius or P. nubigenus would be my call. If the tree was in NZ, I would straightaway say P. totara x acutifolius or P. totara var waihoenis.





wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-20 09:50:52, a dit:
Hi, the foilage pic you have linked is that of another Pododcarpus within the forest, this one is definitely a different tree altogether, the bark on the other one is thinner and smoother, I will upload a pic of it today.

Conifers, I will also upload a picture of the foilage of this tree today.

foomanz, à 2015-01-20 21:12:42, a dit:
Whoops, sorry about the confusion!



wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-20 21:30:30, a dit:
No problem, haven't got round to uploading a picture of the bark of the other tree but I will tomorrow.

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pw3, à 2015-01-18 05:40:10, a dit:
Hi! I noticed you posted some information about a giant sequoia in Santa Fe (Near the end of San Antonio, on the right. About 3 blocks S). I recently drove by it, and it's a beautiful tree! How did you find it? And how did you figure out when it was planted?

Thanks so much,


siriatma, à 2015-01-19 15:57:30, a dit:
I met the guy that planted the tree. Talk with Micheal Melendrez at http://treesthatplease.org/ you won't regret it. A great soul.

siriatma, à 2015-01-19 16:01:58, a dit:
There are three giant sequoias in that neighborhood. Did you find them all? Best way to find giant sequoias is to go to some high ground and look down. They are the tallest trees around. Don't miss the Sequoiadendron 'pendulosa' in front of payne's nursery on St Micheal's. If you head back to town from the San Antonio tree and take the first small dead end right turn off assacia de madre, you will find another one. I have over 40 sequoia's on my property in Espanola.

siriatma, à 2015-01-19 16:03:39, a dit:
You might want to see all the sequoias he (micheal) planted around the capital building (the round one).

pw3, à 2015-01-19 19:23:35, a dit:
Wow, thanks for the amazing reply. I'll definitely get in contact with Michael. So I saw the tree at the end of San Antonio (Near the end of San Antonio, on the right. About 3 blocks S) and I saw the one off Acequia Madre (Acequia Madre). Is there another one I'm I missed?

Your property sounds amazing. How old are the trees on your property?

Thanks so much,


siriatma, à 2015-01-19 21:57:22, a dit:
I started planting sequoias in 1996

pw3, à 2015-01-20 04:41:04, a dit:
That's awesome! How big are the oldest ones now?

Jeroen Philippona, à 2015-01-19 18:26:17, a dit:
Bonjour Milimims,

Je pense ce beau chêne est un chêne rouvre, Quercus petraea ou Quercus pubescens, et pas un chêne vert, Quercus ilex.

Hello Milimims,

I think this is a Sessile Oak, Quercus petraea or perhaps Q. pubescens and not a Holm Oak, Quercus ilex. This can be seen from the lobed leaves.

Best regards,

Jeroen Philippona

Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-19 21:22:01, a dit:
I do agree with Jeroen, either Q. petraea or Q. pubescens, Leo

Jeroen Philippona, à 2015-01-19 18:24:06, a dit:
Bonjour Milimims,

Je pense ce beau chêne est un chêne rouvre, Quercus petraea ou Quercus pubescens, et pas un chêne , Quercus ilex.

Hello Milimims,

I think this is a sessile oak (Quercus petraea) or perhaps Q. pubescens and not a Quercus ilex. This can be seen from the lobed leaves.

Best regards,

Jeroen Philippona

Kjel, à 2015-01-02 09:27:32, a dit:
Zoals bij veel oude kastanjes begint de stam te torsen
Tim, à 2015-01-02 09:54:58, a dit:
Ik kom vaak bij deze boom voorbij tijdens mijn middagloopjesin Gent (langs de Schelde en het Gentbrugse meersen). Leuk deze ook hier op de website te zien verschijnen.



Kjel, à 2015-01-02 10:58:38, a dit:
Fijn om te horen dat er nog mensen van deze boom genieten. Ik zou graag wat van die Robinias zien verdwijnen om hem wat meer licht te geven zodat de onderste takken niet helemaal sterven.

In de wijk Meersemhof staan trouwens nog twee kanjers als restant van het kasteeldomein: een (jammer genoeg gekandelaarde) moerascipres waarvan enkel de kruin zichtbaar is vanop de straat en een knoert van een beuk die goed te bewonderen valt van op de wegel die door de wijk loopt.

WiPe, à 2015-01-03 13:34:20, a dit:

als je tijd hebt, kun je die dan fotograferen en toevoegen?



Kjel, à 2015-01-18 16:15:10, a dit:
Dag Wim

Zie Meersemwegel



Kjel, à 2015-01-18 15:56:59, a dit:
De beuk met de bewoonster op de voorgrond na een onderhoudssnoei (enkel dood hout verwijderd).

Conifers, à 2015-01-18 14:17:43, a dit:
Pinus nigra ;-)
Frank Gyssling, à 2015-01-18 14:24:22, a dit:
I mean also this is not an Atlas cedar!
Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-18 15:01:28, a dit:
I didn't trust my own judgement and followed the determination of the "Bomenstichting" In their records it is recorded as a Cedrus Atlantica. When I was there I couldn't believe it was one. Thank you for the correction. And I have to trust myself better now and then.

Conifers, à 2014-11-23 18:38:35, a dit:
Podocarpus sp., perhaps P. salignus (though the leaves are a bit short for this)
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-23 21:00:48, a dit:
Thanks, yes I think P. Salignus leaves are too big, will upload a clearer picture..... Possibly nubigenus?
Conifers, à 2014-11-25 09:49:22, a dit:
Doesn't look like P. nubigenus, which has shorter, stiffer, denser leaves. How large is the plant? If just a small, young plant it could well still be P. salignus, as when young (up to maybe 1-2m tall?) they do have shorter leaves like this.
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-25 11:44:49, a dit:
Hi, there are two trees both about 8 or 9 metres tall at the max...
Conifers, à 2014-11-25 23:17:41, a dit:
OK! So some other Podocarpus . . . not easy!
TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-11-26 18:12:01, a dit:
Wouldn't P. totara be the obvious species?

Unfortunately, there are no historic Alan Mitchell records for these younger plantings at Gosford. Do we know where the Forest Service (?) may have been sourcing them from?

wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-26 19:01:14, édité à 2014-11-26 19:46:22, a dit:
I will have to get down on Saturday to get a clearer picture of the tree and foliage. Would be hard to know where the Forest Service would have sourced these from as there haven't really been any plantings since and there may not be any records.
Conifers, à 2014-11-26 20:26:25, a dit:
Doesn't look like P. totara - leaves too long and lax.

ww'97 - are the leaves hard and spiny to handle, or fairly soft?

wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-26 21:14:54, a dit:
They are a bit spiny but not too much, wouldn't say they are soft either...
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-27 20:58:44, a dit:
I have uploaded a couple of clearer pictures of the shoots.
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-28 17:24:53, a dit:
It wouldn't be P. Cunninghamii??
Conifers, à 2014-11-28 17:51:57, a dit:
Not Podocarpus cunninghamii, that has shorter, broader leaves, and - like Podocarpus totara and Podocarpus nubigenus - is also harder and spinier than your comments suggest. Unfortunately, it's a large genus, and though not many are hardy, tracing the right one won't be at all easy.
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-28 21:17:50, a dit:
We'll get there eventually!! I will upload a photo of the shape of the tree and the bark tomorrow..
Conifers, à 2014-11-28 23:10:24, a dit:

Checking through all the pics again, my feeling is still best for P. salignus, a short-leaved individual. Try measuring the longest leaves you can find.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-11-29 17:41:18, a dit:
Your picture of the crown now rules out P. salignus. I'd still be inclined to plump for P. totara (probably young vigorous trees have longer leaves than is quoted for old wild ones) but hybrids between salignus and totara do occur in cultivation. The largest and oldest known, at the Sir Harold Hillier Gardens, was 9m tall a couple of years ago, so if a sister-seedling was distributed to Gosford, it would be about the size of your tree by now.
Conifers, à 2014-11-29 18:02:26, édité à 2014-11-29 18:38:10, a dit:
That hybrid is the best option so far, certainly (a new one to me!).
foomanz, à 2015-01-15 04:53:59, a dit:
Hi all,

P. cunninghamii does have significantly longer and softer juvenile foliage that can occur on mature trees.

Another possible ID is P. acutifolius, or needle leaf totara. P. totara x acutifolius hybrid varities are very common in NZ, and normally have a similar form to the tree here.

Is there a photo of the trunk/bark?



Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-13 22:09:48, a dit:
Hallo Henk,

Deze locatie is 2 keer geregistreerd. De andere is eerder geregistreerd, dus het lijkt logisch om de bomen van deze site daar aan toe te voegen. Alleen de prachtige oude beuk staat op beide sites. Zou jij deze 2 bomen aan die andere site willen toevoegen svp? En voor de boom die op beide registraties is opgenomen,kan samenvoegen alleen door jouw foto's weg te halen en opnieuw op te laden bij de andere boom.

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-12 21:36:12, a dit:
Tree on the right is this one described, the taller and broader one. The one on the left is slightly smaller.

wwhiteside97, à 2015-01-12 21:26:04, a dit:
On the left, county champion girth and height Coast Rewood on right.

Bieuwe Roelofs, à 2015-01-09 20:41:10, a dit:
De boom is waarschijnlijk aangetast door de schubbige bundelzwam.
Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-10 15:01:41, a dit:
ja 2 jaar geleden heb ik ook al veel paddenstoelen aan de voet zien staan, toch lijkt het de boom weinig te deren, ik kom er regelmatig langs, maar had hem nog nooit gemeten.
Bieuwe Roelofs, à 2015-01-10 20:49:12, a dit:
De boom redelijk recent nader onderzocht, de wortelaanlopen zijn onderzocht en de stabiliteit van de boom. Vooralsnog is hij veilig.

Ik vind het een pracht van een boom, Vooral op deze plek.

patricia, à 2015-01-09 23:29:10, a dit:
Where is the identification of the trees featured on the home page?

Thank you

Error en la nacionalidad de las localizaciones
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JordIgd1977, à 2015-01-08 12:17:48, a dit:
He añadido la ficha de dos nuevos árboles a la base de datos, pero pese a haber seguido paso a paso las instrucciones de la web en el momento de la creación de las fichas y haber introducido con exactitud la localización de los árboles, una vez publicadas las fichas en ambos casos aparece que el país de ubicación es Bélgica, cuando debería ser España. No logro entender qué ocurre ni logro encontrar el modo de corregirlo. ¿Alguien puede ayudarme en ese respecto?


Tim, à 2015-01-08 21:58:37, a dit:
Hello JordIgd1977,

excuse me for replying in English and not in Spanish, as my Spanish isn't very good.

The error you mentioned was a temporary issue, caused by a bug that I inadvertently introduced when working on new functionality for the site (elevation for each tree, and elevation distribution profiles for species).

It should be solved now and thank you for your patience.

Kind regards,


Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-08 17:25:52, a dit:
Is Belgie zo ver naar het zuiden uitgebreid?
Bess, à 2015-01-08 20:19:27, a dit:
Wij hebben daar een Kolonie… ;-)

JordIgd1977, à 2015-01-07 16:14:59, a dit:
Roble de Ancosa. Foto tomada en septiembre de 2013.

Pelin, à 2015-01-07 15:47:25, a dit:
Dear Mr. Gyssling,

I need to ask you something regarding to a publication that I am currently working on.

Would you please send your contact info (email) to pelin.dervis@gmail.com?

Thank you in advance!

Bess, à 2015-01-07 13:47:50, a dit:
De hele regio barst van prachtige beukehagen.

Bess, à 2015-01-07 10:52:57, a dit:
Prachtige foto! We hebben elkaar op een paar dagen na gemist onder de boom! :-)
David van Iersel, à 2015-01-07 11:00:53, a dit:
't was ook een prachtige dag met de zon op de besneeuwde omgeving.

Groet David.

Bess, à 2015-01-07 10:51:03, a dit:
Tak vers afgezaagd tot aan de stam ter hoogte van de twee kleine venstertjes in de kerk. Reden?

Tim, à 2014-12-23 11:57:44, a dit:
Great picture, John.
John D Harvey, à 2015-01-06 13:47:05, a dit:
Thanks Tim, I had to put on an auto timer on the camera and run like hell for ten seconds. I kind of just collapsed against the tree at that point.

karlussantus, à 2015-01-04 23:37:47, a dit:
Portuguese Institute for Nature and Forests Conservation (ICNF)


karlussantus, à 2015-01-04 23:24:25, a dit:

Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-12-26 15:03:45, édité à 2014-12-26 15:04:07, a dit:
De in 2014 helaas afgescheurde en daarna afgezaagde tak.
Frank, à 2015-01-04 20:27:29, a dit:
Dat is jammer, Jeroen.

Ik heb de boom ook al drie keer bezocht. De laatste keer in November 2013. Wanneer is de tak afgebroken? En bestaan daar fotos van?

Groeten uit Duitsland,


Jeroen Philippona, à 2015-01-04 22:54:05, a dit:
Hoi Frank,

Het is in 2014 gebeurd, maar ik weet niet wanneer. Ik heb er geen foto's van, wellicht hebben mensen van de gemeente, die de tak hebben afgezaagd, er foto's van gemaakt.

Groeten, Jeroen

Karlheinz, à 2015-01-03 12:51:58, a dit:
Diesen Baum gibt es hier nicht. Die Fotos zeigen nicht die Ortslage an der St-Bernhard-Kirche in Ense-Niederense (51.493238, 7.993812). Der hier fotografierte Baum vor dem markanten Gedenkstein ist die "Kirchlinde" vor der St. Petrus-Dorfkirche in 34497 Korbach, Quellenstraße 10 (im Dorf Nieder-Ense):



This tree does not exist at the specified location. The photos do not show the location at St-Bernhardkirche in Niederense. The photographed tree in the distinctive surroundings with the memorial stone is the "Kirchlinde" in front of St. Peter's church in 34497 Korbach, Quellenstraße 10 (in the village Nieder-Ense).

Tim, à 2015-01-03 21:01:37, a dit:
Hello Karlheinz,

you can create the new location by filling in the form "Baum hinzufügen" but stopping after you saved the new "Standort". Then you can move this tree to this location by clicking "Bearbeiten Sie die Daten von diesem Baum" and then changing the "Standort".

Kind regards,


Karlheinz, à 2015-01-04 10:46:57, a dit:
Hello Tim, I have done so.

Diese Standort-Änderung hätte ich gern dem Registrierer dieses Baumes überlassen, doch der hat andere Prioritäten. Hier noch eine Erklärung, wie ich dieses Standort-Puzzle lösen konnte: durch Internet-Recherche und Bildvergleich fand ich dieses Foto zu einem Geocache http://imgcdn.geocaching.com/cache/log/large/e64cd982-6745-4198-908b-fd7405887fde.jpg und konnte es einem Standort zuordnen. Die genauen Koordinaten habe ich der Naturdenkmal-Verordnung des Landkreises Waldeck-Frankenberg entnommen. Vor Ort selber war ich nicht.



karlussantus, à 2015-01-04 03:20:51, a dit:

Tim, à 2015-01-03 21:02:41, a dit:
Very nice, Alberto. Keep up the good work!

Leo Goudzwaard, à 2015-01-02 08:08:21, a dit:
var caesia is not an accepted name, the right name should be var glauca

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2015-01-02 22:44:59, a dit:
It depends who you ask... If you ask me, I would suggest that it is probably best where possible if we all use the names as they appear on this site, rather than changing them frequently according to individual viewpoints.

Conifers, à 2015-01-03 00:32:41, a dit:
Whatever the status, it is certainly has an incorrect spelling here; scientific names never use accents (á, é, etc).

As to the identity of var. caesia; it does represent a genetically distinct population, north of 44°N in the interior USA and Canada, with var. glauca south of 44°N. These two together are even more distinct from coastal menziesii, from which they are better distinguished at subspecies rank - see the discussion in Grimshaw & Bayton, New Trees.

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treehugger, à 2015-01-02 04:24:50, a dit:
Does anyone know where exactly the "Monmouth Tree" in England

grew? Is there any trace of the tree on the site where it

lived? Can someone tell the backstory /legend regarding

The "Monmouth Tree"?

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2015-01-02 22:42:02, a dit:
There were several trees associated with the First Duke of Monmouth who was beheaded in 1685 after leading the Monmouth Rebellion and proclaiming himself King of England and Scotland. The Monmouth Tree at Whitelackington in Somerset was a Sweet Chestnut under which Monmouth is supposed to have dined; it blew down in 1897. In the 1970s the Monmouth Ash still grew at Horton in Dorset and was a descendent of the tree that marked the spot where the Duke was finally captured on Horton Heath. There is also still a Monmouth Oak at Toddington Manor in Bedfordshire, where Monmouth had hid in 1683 after an earlier rebellion (the Rye Plot).

A good source for legends like this is J H Wilks, 'Trees of the British Isles in History and Legend', 1972.

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Wim Brinkerink, à 2015-01-02 11:54:09, a dit:
Er is weer een nieuw mooi fotoboek verschenen. Zie hier een korte introductie. Ik zag hem te koop (hoewel niet voorradig) bij Amazon.com. http://www.bethmoon.com/TouchWood00.html

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Tim, à 2015-01-02 09:53:15, a dit:
Hello Pipiltin,

welcome at the site!

If there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask.

Kind regards,


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Tim, à 2015-01-02 09:44:28, a dit:
Hi all,

the Governing Council of the Galápagos Islands (www.gobiernogalapagos.gob.ec) has started a heritage tree catalog project and has chosen to use MonumentalTrees.com for this. For this I have added Ecuador to the country list, so we should be seeing trees from the Galápagos Islands soon.

Kind regards,


Frank Gyssling, à 2015-01-01 14:28:50, a dit:
dickste Sumpfzypresse in Deutschland

Conifers, à 2012-08-07 07:37:22, a dit:
This one is Pinus ponderosa subsp. scopulorum
Wim Brinkerink, à 2012-08-07 07:45:49, a dit:
U'll change it. And there are more to come.
Pavel1Hoessl, à 2014-12-26 15:50:19, a dit:
Dear Wim,

first of all, I am sorry for my late answer! Secondly I appreciate a lot the comments to my work and picture's quality from the professional photograph's calibre as you are. The trees are for me a kind of my life philosophy which I like a lot. In case of your images, it is a perfect and mainly an professional work has been done by heart and big emotion which not allows me to evaluate it on the end. I wish you a big achievements on the way to the trees !!

Have a nice time !

With best regards


Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-31 21:56:58, a dit:
Hi Pavel,

Thank you for your nice words and appreciation.


wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-29 17:18:36, a dit:
Here are the cones of this fir.... I climbed the tree to get a clear picture of them! On the end of the branches towards the top of the tree.
Conifers, à 2014-11-29 17:34:00, a dit:
An un-named hybrid Abies forrestii × Abies homolepis. I've seen this hybrid at several places (including RBG Edinburgh), likely that someone collected a whole lot of seed of one growing close to the other in a garden, and sold the seedlings to various gardens.

Nice work getting the pic!! ;-)

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-11-29 18:11:13, a dit:
Very interesting - and an attractive foliage plant. I'd be interested in seeing the bark of this tree (as the parents are so different in bark, this is presumably distinctive in itself) - and in the height and girth of this specimen.
Conifers, à 2014-11-29 18:44:52, a dit:
Yep, it is an attractive plant - combines the bold foliage of A. forrestii with the better dry-climate tolerance of A. homolepis; also starts coning young, and often bears cones low down. Always a good-looking tree whenever I've seen it.
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-29 19:01:07, a dit:
Wasn't as many cones on it this year but last year there were lots and some where on some of the lower branches.
wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-04 19:49:29, a dit:
Hello Owen, I have added the height and girth of this tree. 19m high and 1.30m girth.
TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-07 18:19:23, a dit:
Thanks - I shall enthrone this as the champion for the hybrid by default. Conifers, is the Edinburgh RBG tree of similar age (and a bit smaller in the drier climate there)? I've not measured it (or any of the others you refer to), doubtless passing them over as forrestii.
wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-07 18:32:54, a dit:
Just before you do, I added the wrong height measurement, thankfully it is not out by much. 17.5m for the height.
Conifers, à 2014-12-07 21:24:06, a dit:
Ho Owen

"Conifers, is the Edinburgh RBG tree of similar age (and a bit smaller in the drier climate there)?"

From memory, it's a little bit larger (maybe 20m?, and the largest of this hybrid I've seen). It's many years since I last got up to RBGE now so it's likely to be even larger now. It is (assuming it's still there!) a short way in northeast of the West Gate, toward the southern edge of the Pinetum area.

Discovered I took some (rather bad!) pics of it last time I was there, including one of the label; the label says "Abies homolepis var. umbellata" (which it obviously isn't), and accession number 1971.5734A - does that help locate it in any records?

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-08 18:51:14, a dit:

In that case I do know the tree, and it was thriving last summer (16m x 234cm girth, so the Gosford tree is slightly taller). As it had grown from 198cm girth in 2004, the '1971' accession date could just possibly reflect the actual planting date as it's not a common number at Edinburgh.

In the pinetum at Edinburgh there is also a genuine A. homolepis var. umbellata from Wilson 7707, planted in 1915 but slightly smaller than 1971.5734A. I didn't compare the two - when it comes to Asiatic Abies I'm just glad when there's a label on them! The Edinburgh tree is the only known survivor from W 7707, but a much bigger var. umbellata at Dawyck was planted in 1924, presumably from a Wilson collection. On Alan Mitchell's card-index he suggested W 4078 for this tree (and also for trees at Vernon Holme, planted in 1908 and since lost, and at Holkham Hall). Oddly, a tree known to be from W 4078 still grows in the Edinburgh pinetum (1911.1010A) and is labelled, credibly, as A. forrestii. (It was one of two in 1985 when Alan commented 'verging on A. fabri').

I was also at Holkham the other month, and found a tree which I assumed to be the one Alan had suspected to be from W 4078. It had an unusually columnar habit for A. homolepis and unusually long leaves, so certainly not A. forrestii. The differences might suggest it's var. umbellata (I didn't see cones) but might be a result of the dry, continental climate there.

Comments from anyone welcomed!

Conifers, à 2014-12-09 01:31:25, a dit:
It'd be worth asking Keith Rushforth about those Wilson numbers, he'll know them well.
RedRob, à 2014-12-09 17:56:18, a dit:
I had a look for the Edinburgh RBG fir on Geograph and didn't find it but founf this:


Read about these growing as companions to the Redwoods in Humboldt county etc.

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-31 00:31:21, a dit:
Hello Owen, I have finally got round to adding photos of the bark of this tree, trunk is quite mossy but I managed to scrape some moss off to take a photo.

Indi, à 2014-12-29 15:41:46, a dit:
je vous confirme l'existence du séquoia de Cunlhat, situé rue de Bourgeallat. A la louche, il fait une trentaine de mètres et je mesurerai la circonférence à la base prochainement. Il a été planté au début du 20ème siècle (1906 ?).

Tim B, à 2011-01-24 22:49:00, a dit:
Dit is de grootste Pendulum die ik ooit zag. Zeer opmerkelijk. Ik ben er vorig jaar nét niet aan voorbijgereden met de koersfiets, wat een pech. Groeten, Tim
WiPe, à 2011-01-25 10:06:00, a dit:
Ik had hem de eerste keer ook net gemist, pas op de terugweg hebben we die boom toevallig gevonden. Ik heb nog een foto van een andere Pendulum, in de buurt van Le Mans. Maar ik zal toch eerst de exacte locatie moeten terugvinden eer ik die foto kan posten. Bovenien is die boom een stuk minder goot dan dit, meer dan opvallende, exemplaar.
xandru, à 2014-12-27 12:26:55, édité à 2014-12-27 13:44:26, a dit:
Ces deux séquoias pleureurs se trouvent face à l’église à Saint-Laurent(StreetView). C’est le croisement de rue des Campanules et ruelle de la Marlière.
WiPe, à 2014-12-27 15:20:11, édité à 2014-12-27 15:22:29, a dit:
T'as raison. Il me resemble que j'étais completement perdue au moment que j'avais trouvé cettes deux arbres; Merci de le corriger; J'ai ajouté les arbres au rue des Campanules, Saint Laurent.

Il me resemble que je peux pa s corriger les coordonées au carte google.

xandru, à 2014-12-28 10:22:13, a dit:
Je viens de corriger les coordonnées des arbres. Cependant je n’aurais pas su comment changer leur adresse.

Scholem Alejchem, à 2014-12-28 09:37:35, édité à 2014-12-28 10:43:38, a dit:
Measuring Question:

How could I measure this kind of tree??


Happy new Year


xandru, à 2014-12-26 19:50:13, a dit:
Dieser Mammutbaum existiert nicht mehr. Ende August 2014 war ich an der gegenüber liegenden Tankstelle und habe den Baum nicht gesehen. Zum Vergleich:

Tim, à 2014-12-26 21:09:46, a dit:
Indeed, the tree is now shown in the lists in a striketrough fashion.

Kind regards,


Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-12-26 15:09:39, a dit:
OP deze foto uit september 2014 heeft de boom een vrij spitse top; vergelijking met de foto van Nardo Kaandorp uit 2006 laat zien dat de top behoorlijk is gegroeid.

Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-12-26 15:08:28, a dit:
Op deze foto uit 2006 heeft de boom een ronde top.

Some functionality
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Tim B, à 2014-12-21 14:30:57, a dit:

I know quite a few sent me mails, and I received these but was not able to answer yet.

Today I had some time to work on the site and chose to try to do something about the 'max_user_connections' problem that occurs when Chinese spammers hammer the site.

What I did:

- block registration attempts from sina.com domain and removed over 500 fake users

- made the recent changes list faster, overall improving the site's performance (the downside of this currently the orange color with unseen edits is temporarily not there, restoring that is the next priority).

- allowed pasting links with German characters (ä, ö, ü, ß) in

Kind regards,


Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-12-21 22:06:35, a dit:
Hi Tim,

Very good, if these spammers are mostly from China it is better to block all entrances from that country as till now (as far as I know) there have not been serious users from China.

Kind regards, Jeroen

Tim, à 2014-12-26 13:44:36, a dit:

the indication of the recent changes done since the last login in an orange color has been restored.

Kind regards,


MonumentalTrees.com · Register
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rtrynor, à 2014-12-26 01:34:38, a dit:
There is an eastern hemlock in Spednic lake provincial park in New Brunswick in Southern York County near the canada US border. The span of my arms could only reach about a third around the circumference of the tree at five feet up from the base. It is a single trunk for several feet up the tree.

Conifers, à 2014-12-26 09:37:38, a dit:
Nice find! Well worth getting a six metre tape and measuring its girth accurately.

Karlheinz, à 2014-12-20 19:04:21, a dit:
Hello Leo Goudzwaard, Conifers and all others,

can you confirm Ulmus minor?

Greetings Karlheinz

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-24 21:12:28, a dit:
Yes, Ulmus minor.
Karlheinz, à 2014-12-25 01:38:54, a dit:
Thanks Owen, for evaluation!
Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-12-25 10:13:39, a dit:
Hai Karlheinz

Why is there a yellow painted dot on the trunk? Those dots are most used to mark a tree for felling. Is there a permit for removing thit tree?

Karlheinz, à 2014-12-25 11:00:38, a dit:
I do not know. But the cuts at the thick branches in half height are still fresh. Such tree care measures would hardly be executed if the tree must fall.

Conifers, à 2014-12-21 20:37:57, a dit:
Where does one measure the girth on a tree like this? I'd guess, not below 4 or 5 metres height?
Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-12-21 22:00:42, a dit:
Bart Bouricius wrote the buttresses are up to 45 feet / 13.6 m high along the trunk, so only there the girth without buttresses can be measured. He tried it but they could not manage this. He will try it at a next visit to the tree. As I wrote he estimated the girth without buttresses at breast height at something between 6.7 and 9.8 m.
Conifers, à 2014-12-21 22:54:53, a dit:

Hi welcome
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Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-19 21:05:55, a dit:

I only recently took account of your contributions. I like the trees you post and admire your pictures. I welcome you very much.


Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-19 21:17:31, a dit:
Adjusting my first mail. I like people who are interested in the images, and their qualities and overall-view of the tree. So I have an individualistic approach to trees. Some of us are more interested in numbers and records. I welcome everyone who prefers the image. And especially if they can make a difference. You will do so, I'm sure of that.

I am curious about your following contributions.

Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-19 20:54:44, édité à 2014-12-19 21:00:48, a dit:
Fantastic tree, very nice pictures.

Conifers, à 2014-12-19 14:19:13, a dit:
Nice tree! It's a Coast Redwood Sequoia sempervirens, not a Giant Sequoia Sequoiadendron giganteum (so of even more value, as less commonly planted).
Brian, à 2014-12-19 17:13:01, a dit:
Thanks for the feedback. Very much appreciated.

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Brian, à 2014-12-16 03:35:28, a dit:
I have two sequoia trees approximately 20m tall x 5m girth in scenic North Bend Washington, USA. One recently lost a limb, which unfortunately almost destroyed my neighbor's garage. My neighbor has engaged a lawyer to force me to cut these beautiful trees down. I would like to find an arborist expert on sequoia. I want to do all I can to save these trees from destruction. Is there an arborist in western Washington State that would be best for this assignment? Thanks


RedRob, à 2014-12-17 16:22:08, a dit:
Hello Brian, welcome. Not Washington state but not a million miles away and an arborist with a definite interest in redwoods to say the least is this guy:


I would send Mario a message with your query and ask him his advice, if you send him detailed photos I imagine that he may be able to help even from a distance.

Brian, à 2014-12-17 16:52:15, a dit:
RedRob, thank you for your help. I will follow your excellent advice.

RedRob, à 2014-12-17 16:57:00, a dit:
You are very welcome Brian, hope that Mario can help save your trees. Perhaps you could register them on here to help with your cause against the lawyers?

The weather good in your area at the moment? I am in Yorkshire, England but have seen and have been following the coverage of the storm in California with the houses buried in mud from mudslides.

Brian, à 2014-12-18 03:07:06, a dit:
RedRob, thanks again for the information. I was also able to find an arborist in a local town, Fall City, that may know about sequoia. It was a little to dreary to take premium pictures today. It should be nice tomorrow, before five days of forecasted rain.

I was not certain I should register my trees; they are not that big by sequoia standards. I have a Bigleaf maple (girth about 8 - 9 m) as well as cedars and firs that are larger. I'll take accurate measurements with the pictures tomorrow.

The weather here is very nice. We are not getting pounded by the storms that are rolling through California.

Conifers, à 2014-12-19 14:20:33, a dit:
Just seen the photo - nice tree! It's a Coast Redwood Sequoia sempervirens, not a Giant Sequoia Sequoiadendron giganteum (so of even more value, as less commonly planted).

Brian, à 2014-12-19 17:12:41, a dit:
Thanks for the feedback. Very much appreciated.

Quercus Hispanica and Q x Hispanica Lucombeana
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wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-18 16:42:57, a dit:
Could someone tell me, is it Q x Hispanica that keeps it's leaves all year? And 'Lucombeana' that loses most but not all of its leaves? I recently uploaded a 5.18m oak which I think is Q x Hispanica as it still had all its leaves(this was in mid November). Would I be correct in saying this?

Conifers, à 2014-12-18 17:42:32, a dit:
Quercus × hispanica is the name which covers all hybrids between Turkey Oak and Cork Oak; so it is very variable, and of course includes 'Lucombeana' as a sub-set.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-18 17:52:54, a dit:
The commonest clones of Q. x hispanica in Britain and Ireland are 'William Lucombe', which should have about 80% of its leaves left in December and 20% by March, and an unnamed corky-barked clone grafted at the base on Turkey Oak, which is almost completely evergreen. Rarer clones include 'Fulhamensis' which loses most of its leaves after Christmas and a few unnamed deciduous clones. 'William Lucombe' is the only clone that regularly reaches 5m girth with a good single bole.

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-18 18:18:57, a dit:
Thanks, this makes things clearer, I shall upload an image of the tree as it is at the minute. The trunk was hidden away for many years by Rhodo Ponticum until these were cleared about 5 years ago and until this time you couldn't see the size of the trunk.

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-18 19:26:03, a dit:
Just as a matter of interest, what size of leaf has 'William Lucombe'? There are 2 other Lucombe oaks in the forest with quite a big leaf but the leaves on this tree are smaller than these ones.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-18 21:15:45, a dit:
'William Lucombe's' leaves are Turkey-Oak sized but more regularly lobed. The most vigorous examples might have slightly bigger leaves - it's probably the biggest-leaved clone (or group of clones perhaps by now) of Q. x hispanica. Q. castaneifolia is always a possibility for a look-alike with significantly longer leaves: this is deciduous but can hold only its dead leaves through winter.

Conifers, à 2014-12-18 21:35:37, a dit:
Even Quercus cerris is only just starting to shed leaves in the last few days around here

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-18 22:23:07, a dit:
Probably is one of the larger leaved clones then, I will upload a photo of the leaves of this particular tree and of the other Lucombe oak which I have added to this site.


wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-19 13:59:00, a dit:
I have uploaded pictures of the two trees, both are not the same examples but are the same species of tree. The 5.18 tree is exactly the same species as the one I have uploaded with nearly all of its leaves still on. The other Lucombe Oak? I have uploaded has nearly all of its leaves gone, I have also uploaded images of the leaves of both trees.

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RedRob, à 2014-12-17 16:50:18, a dit:
Hello Owen, what is the champion for height for Ceanothus in Britain, can only find two on the register of 5 and 6 metres, Lambeth 2001 and Canterbury Cathedral respectively when I use Champions of B&I and county search? I have come across one which is around 5 metres, not sure which type it is?


69 Moorside, Boston Spa

No Ceanothus registered on here at all. Also when visiting this are workwise the other day came across a 3 metre Mahonia, not sure which type?

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-18 17:54:54, a dit:
Those are the only two Ceanothus I've measured! Normally they're bushes - the same with Mahonia.

Stephen Verge.
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RedRob, à 2014-12-17 16:52:44, a dit:
Stephen, any news about your trees, have you managed to get the photos off your phone? Still looking forward to hearing about and seeing more of or some of your trees from your visit to Wales? Hope that it isn't a wait in vain?

Stephen Verge, à 2014-12-18 08:37:43, a dit:
Hi Rob

Very frustrating, given a phone which has so far been impossible to upload to my computer, will try over the holidays and failing that will have to scan prints! Been busy, but now have a month off work to hopefully upload some pictures and a couple of reports.

To change the subject, I have reclaimed some old growth Western Red Cedar timber from a children's climbing frame and hopefully to make a great garden bench.

Last night with a magnifying glass I counted 300 years of growth in a piece of timber 13cm x 8cm!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never seen such slow growth!!! Sadly from a tree which could be a 1000 years old, likely from B.C Coast or Vancouver Island. Worth a fortune and I could not accept that someone wanted to cut it up for firewood!!



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Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-17 12:17:54, a dit:
A few weeks ago I mentioned a newly met problem with uploading pictures. My new system operates under Windows 8. The Windows explorer automatically rotates pictures 90% if they are taken vertical. For everyone who will meet this problem in due time, there isn't an easy solution. This problem is caused by Microsoft and Microsoft takes no responsibility, so I learned on a microsoft-community blog. I have asked the question to my computer manufacturer and to the FAQ man of a well-known Computer-magazine. The manufacturer said that it is a problem of the Microsoft software and they cannot help. The FAQ man of the computer magazine says, I have to process the picture with a qualitatively good rotating-program.

In the meantime I solve this problem by uploading the pictures on my second system (windows 7) and using my network to upload them to my main computer. So be prepared all, once you switch to Windows 8, you will meet the same problem.

Guusbuch, à 2014-12-17 08:31:10, a dit:
Het gaat erg goed met deze boom. De omvang is flink toegenomen sinds 2003. Meer dan 6 meter? Op het landgoed staat ook een flinke moerascypres.

Scholem Alejchem, à 2014-12-16 11:29:29, a dit:
Hallo Leute

Big Joe ist akut vom Umschneiden bedroht! Ich arbeite derzeit an einer Rettungsaktion um ihn solange stehen zu lassen, bis er von selber umfällt!

lg Scholem

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-14 16:59:41, a dit:
Thought this was an unusual silver birch because of the weeping... Any particular type or just one that is very weeping?
Alberto C F, à 2014-12-14 20:45:39, a dit:
Maybe is Betula pendula variety "tristis".
wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-14 20:53:10, a dit:
I think it might be as it has long flimsy twigs, thanks!
TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-15 18:40:15, a dit:
I would agree. I've found it very difficult to be confident with this clone as it just represents an extreme of the variable natural habit and never seems to have been raised as grafts, but this one looks as good a candidate as any I've seen.

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-15 11:04:14, a dit:
Hello Owen, I was looking through the trees from gosford which you uploaded onto the tree register website, I just wanted to clarify that the chamaecyparis pisifera which was uploaded is the cultivar, plumosa aurea.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-15 18:38:22, a dit:
Thanks, I shall correct that.

alexandru ionut, à 2014-12-14 19:28:36, a dit:
Planted by Baron Dietrich Jozsef

Turkije = Azië of Europa of allebei?
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Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-12 22:40:00, a dit:
Hi Tim,

Ik heb net een tripje naar Turkije gemaakt. Wel wat aardige bomen gezien. Ik ga ze plaatsen. Een kernvraag is echter of op onze database Turkije alleen Europa is (bestaand0 of ook via Azië benaderd/bereikt kan worden. Ik heb de neiging om nu mijn bomen onder Turkije, Europa te uploaden. Dat is wellicht niet correct, omdat Antalya en Cappadocië tot het werelddeel Azië behoren.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-12-12 23:31:46, a dit:

Wees hier helder en transparant. De Bosporus en Zee van Marmora vormen de grens tussen Europa en Azie. Bomen ten westen van deze wateren horen in Europa te worden geregistreerd. De overige bomen horen in Azie thuis.

Groet, Martin

Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-13 00:09:51, a dit:
Hi Martin,

Staatkundig klopt dat. Turkije is voor een klein deel Europa en een groot deel Azië. In onze database is Turkije echter geheel onder Europa geclassificeerd. Dus alle provincies staan onder Europa. Ik kan (geloof ik) geen bomen onder Turkije Azië invoeren tenzij ik me vergis. Tim moet daar maar uitsluitsel over geven. In essentie vind ik echter wel dat het grootste deel van Turkije staatkundig onder Azië valt.

Cultureel denk ik daar genuanceerder over sinds mijn laatste bezoek,

Maar dat doet er niet echt toe. We hebben hier toch een staatkundige classificatie?

Groet Wim.

Conifers, à 2014-12-13 14:50:18, a dit:
Russia is of course also in both continents, which could be significant if we get many trees there.

For completeness, Kazakhstan also has (a small) part in Europe, part (most) in Asia. Mostly treeless steppe, but there could be some large Populus or Salix on the banks of the Ural River (the boundary between Europe and Asia there).

Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-13 19:14:01, a dit:
Hi Conifers,

I agree that more diffuse situations exist. Concerning Turky, the only European part of Turky is the west of Istanbul. The overwhelming rest of the country is Asian Let's say about 99%. In this database I haven't any problems if Tim decides that Turky belongs Europe. Politically I have problems with that idea, but we are not in politics here.


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Wim Brinkerink, à 2014-12-13 13:41:11, a dit:
Hi Tim,

Ik heb gisteren een onderwerp opgevoerd over het feit dat Turkije zowel in Europa en Azië ligt en hoe dat in deze database is opgenomen. Ik had deze vraag beter in jouw overleg kunnen starten. Ik mag er immers niet van uitgaan dat jij alles ziet. Zou jij willen reageren op dat onderwerp. Het lijkt me ook nuttig dat anderen het weten, vandaar dat ik het als algemeen onderwerp heb gepost.

Frank Gyssling, à 2014-12-12 11:59:11, a dit:
Hallo Tobias,

alle Ginko-Bäume in Deutschland (bei MT) mit gleich- oder größerem Umfang sind erst am Anfang, in der Mitte oder im 2. Drittel des 19. Jahrhunderts gepflanzt worden. Kann es sein das du dich mit den Pflanzjahr vertan hast? Bist du dir wirklich sicher? Das würde bedeuten das dieser Ginko sehr langsam an Umfang zugelegt hat.

viele Grüße Frank

Frank Gyssling, à 2014-12-12 10:52:50, a dit:
Schade, schönes Foto, aber leider überbelichtet.

RedRob, à 2014-12-11 18:16:34, édité à 2014-12-11 18:21:27, a dit:
Could I ask a question, the small blue Douglas Fir here, is this going to be just a normal Douglas Fir or could it be the variant 'Glauca'? I noticed it in particular when I measured these trees a couple of years ago now but didn't really think anything about it and wasn't aware that there was a 'Glauca' type then. The reason that I ask is that I have noticed another very bluey tree in another photograph in a group of trees which the laser measured at 48 metres in Aug 2012. I have uploaded a photograph of it (bottom photo) it is directly in the centre of the photo and clothed with foliage right down it's trunk.

Conifers, à 2014-12-12 01:25:45, a dit:
Unlikely, but not impossible. You'd need to get a close-up of the foliage and (preferably) a cone.

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Conifers, à 2014-12-10 23:55:36, a dit:
With wind speeds of up to 230 km/h (144 mph) reported — admittedly on treeless St Kilda — there's going to be a lot of trees down.

Any news on losses yet?

RedRob, à 2014-12-11 18:24:49, a dit:
Hello Conifers, incredible winds, 81 mph here at High Bradfield near Sheffield yesterday, 61 mph at Emley Moor which I suspected as the TV is being affected at the moment.

There is a gardening programme on BBC2 in the mornings called 'Great Gardens from above' with Christine something in a balloon. I couldn't catch it but this morning she was in Northumberland, I wondered if she could have been at Cragside? Did you see it Con? I would love to see the trees at Cragside from above, would be spectacular.

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wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-08 22:48:22, a dit:
Can anyone tell me why Monkey Puzzles die? in the last 10 years there have been 5 that have died in Gosford, including the county champion girth tree. One month they are growing fine then the next they show signs of dying.

Conifers, à 2014-12-09 01:28:27, a dit:
Likely root disease (Phytophthora or similar) after wet years.

In the wild they grow on very free-draining volcanic ash; Britain's boulder-cay soils are not good for their long-term growth.

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-09 19:04:39, a dit:
Thanks, that would make sense as the ground these 5 trees were growing on was generally quite wet.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-02 18:08:19, a dit:
Not I think 'Fastigiata', which has steeply rising branches so that it retains a rather conic shape, but certainly a fine straight stem. (From this photo I wouldn't like to distinguish atlantica from libani, but I'm sure you can from the tree itself.)
wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-02 18:40:02, a dit:
Thanks for this.... I wasn't sure but it definitely has a very straight trunk. I think it's atlantica.
Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-12-03 10:02:32, a dit:

Plaese note that most trees that are bought and planted as C. atlantica are in fact C. libanii.This is a fine specimen, but not a fastigiata form.

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-03 17:13:08, a dit:
Hello, I checked the needles this afternoon and it is definitely a cedrus atlantica.
Conifers, à 2014-12-03 22:40:15, a dit:
Hi Martin - in one sense I'd disagree; at least in Britain, most trees planted as Atlas Cedar are Atlas Cedars.

But in a botanical sense, Atlas Cedar is so closely related to Lebanon Cedar, that it can't really be considered distinct at species level, so all Atlas Cedars are Cedrus libani; best classified as Cedrus libani subsp. atlantica.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-12-03 23:31:53, a dit:
Hai Conifers,

Thanks for the corrections. I agree. But I see almost no Atlas cedars over here. Almost alll are Lebanon cedars, even the blue forms (Glauca). I don't know if it's right but our dutch climate is not correct for the more mountainnes heritage of the subsp. atlantica.

RedRob, à 2014-12-09 18:18:25, édité à 2014-12-09 18:18:59, a dit:
cèdre de l'Atlas (Cedrus atlantica) '16035'

Hello Martin, Atlas Cedars seem to grow just as impressively with you as over here and in hilly areas. Perhaps it is down to popularity, Dutch aristocracy, toffs didn't like them, they weren't in vogue or fashion.

Tallest tree in Southern England. Tallest tree in Southern England. Tallest tree in Southern E
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RedRob, à 2014-12-02 18:26:27, a dit:
Hello Owen, are there likely to be any other 60 or near 60 metre trees in hidden locations in Southern England?

Some possibilities that I have found are:


Some very tall looking trees around the lake at Centre Parcs in Longleat Forest, Grand Fir?


These do look like Grand Fir and look pretty big. No Grand Fir over 40 metres recorded in Wiltshire.


Grand Fir again (?) and they look very tall.


Again look very tall when comparing with the human figures, Grand Fir again?


RedRob, à 2014-12-02 18:30:37, a dit:
Another great mystery like the monster of Loch Ness and the Yeti, wrote 'Tallest tree in Southern England' once in the heading bar and yet it as come out repeated?

RedRob, à 2014-12-09 18:07:15, édité à 2014-12-09 18:12:45, a dit:
Hello Owen, look forward to hearing about your visit to Longleat Forest. It is a place that I would like to visit as well, when I visited Centre Parcs it was a foul day with torrential rain, thunder and low cloud but the conifers did look very, very tall around the cabins and central area where there is a heavily forested ravine, valley. Doubt that I would have been able to use the laser but would have loved to have had one that day. Have the trees in this area ever been properly looked at, who measured the Sequoiadendrons in the grove in the photo in the link below? In the photographs, the 54 metre Coast Redwood is not in a plantation but in a more open stand with other trees, I suspect that it may be or must be in the Centre Parcs area as the plantations that we looked at in Longleat looked dense more like the Charles Ackers Grove.


It says that Centre Parcs is home to hundreds of Coast Redwoods.

I think that the photo here of the Sequoiadendrons must be taken upslope from the ravine that I mentioned in the top paragraph, there looked to be some tall trees down there. These Seqys look as if they have quite nice spires so may still be adding height.

Do you think that the tallest tree in Britain could eventually be in Southern England somewhere like Longleat? I am just thinking about the frequency of very strong winds compared to Scotland and west Wales and the drier climate possibly protecting abit against fungus attacks.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-03 18:17:40, a dit:
For this tree, the foliage close-up is Chamaecyparis pisifera but the crown photo is of C. lawsoniana 'Stewartii' (moderately confident this time!) I wonder if this is actually the photo you said you would upload for '19993' (Lawsons cv with golden foliage at tips, which fits a mature slow-growing example of 'Stewartii'?)

I think to transfer this picture to 19993 you'd need to delete and re-upload it. You've probably worked out that you can edit each tree's details by clicking on the link 'edit data for this tree' (and other details by clicking on each pencil icon) - that is, to change 'Tree of undetermined species' into the right name.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-12-03 19:45:11, a dit:
Foliage detail photo shows Chameacyparis pisifera or Ch. p. 'Boulevard'

Tree photo is a Chamaecyparis lawsoniana. But I am pretty sure it is not a 'Stewartii' the ones I know are more yellow throughout, even if they are planted in a shady place. See photo of Ch. l. 'Stewartii' at Westonbird Arboretum (Valley Gardens) GB

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-03 21:05:35, a dit:
The picture of the whole tree is the same as the picture of the foilage.... Not a great picture of the tree as I took it just before sunset... There are a few other examples of this tree I could upload if that would help?

Conifers, à 2014-12-03 22:35:36, a dit:
Foliage and cones both a C. lawsoniana cultivar, not C. pisifera (which has very distinct 'sunken' cone scales, also without any of the glaucous wax bloom visible here).

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-04 19:06:58, a dit:
Perhaps 'Stewartii' does have unusually long-tipped leaves then - I don't think I've studied the foliage close-up. Whole tree photo is certainly good for 'Stewartii' - the brightness of the colour always fades as these trees get older and produce less new growth each year.

WW, you said you were going to upload a whole-crown photo for the cypress with the yellow only at the shoot-tips? ('Naberi' is a possibility here - an attractive but seldom-seen clone).

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-04 19:43:11, a dit:
Hello, I was out this afternoon getting some measurements, unfortunately the light faded too quickly to take decent photos... I will get a clear photo of both this tree and the crown of the tree with yellow only at the tips on Saturday hopefully.

wwhiteside97, à 2014-12-06 18:36:48, a dit:
Hello all, I have uploaded another picture of the whole tree. It is not the same example but a younger example growing elsewhere in the arboretum. It shows it's colour more.

Monique1961, à 2014-12-04 14:01:37, édité à 2014-12-04 14:06:37, a dit:
Als vijfjarige heb ik begin 1966 een takje van een populier wat in een vaas stond en wortel had geschoten, samen met mijn moeder geplant, als geboorteboompje, voor mijn pasgeboren broertje.

Als ik nu, bijna 50 jaar later, in Nederland ben en over de Kamerlingh Onnesweg in Hilversum rij, is de inmiddels reusachtige populier goed te zien. (Kamrad, Vogelpan 36). Dàt is ook de reden waarom ik deze twee "geboorte"boompjes voor mijn zoontje heb geplant.

Tiziano Rootman Fratus, à 2014-12-04 09:22:16, a dit:
A Giant and a Rootman.

Tiziano Rootman Fratus, à 2014-12-04 09:21:27, a dit:
In this special reservoir (13 km from the center of the village of Luras) there are two big specimens: the oldest one with 3000 years old, a second one around 2000 years old. And a third little one, with "only" 500 years old.

Tiziano Rootman Fratus, à 2014-12-04 09:16:34, a dit:
Oldest Italian Tree: estimated 3000 years old.

chsmith1767, à 2014-12-03 23:05:17, a dit:
Our Old Sycamore is said to be perhaps around 300 years old, which would take it back to a time when the colony of Pennsylvania really WAS "Penn's Woods." It seems never to have grown straight upward. It has two main branches that sprawl over the original farmhouse's front yard. The closest branch here rests on the ground now and also has a support post that it has grown into. The other branch, closer to the house, is also supported by a large post.

Stephen Verge, à 2014-11-13 08:02:59, a dit:
Hello Owen

Wow! This one escaped me on MT. I have been here several times and yes quite remarkable that trees of this size can be as big here as in Scotland or Wales, with only 900mm of rain! This tree may surpass the Douglas in Broadwood, Dunster?

Obviously the deeply weathered sandy brown earth soil type derived from the Lower Greensand has been a factor. A pity Southern England was not covered in Greensand as opposed to horrible chalk. There is something magical about this soil which I am interested in finding out about. Here in Oxon, Nuneham Courtenay also on Greensand grows big conifers with only 600mm of rain.

Big Western Hemlock too at Polecat.

I noticed the Sequoia had probably been hit by lightning above the cottage, presume this is the one Alan measured as 170' in his book? An overestimate perhaps?

Kind regards


TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-11-15 18:12:28, a dit:
Greensand is indeed the best soil in south-east England for tree-growth, and so many good tree sites are concentrated on it despite the tiny proportion of the country which it covers. I think the secret is that the grains are coarse enough to allow easy root-penetration but fine enough to be water-retentive. Soils washed down the from the Old Red Sandstone (Welsh Marches etc) and from ancient Scottish sandstone have just the same qualities. So, presumably, do loess soils in the Netherlands where trees can also grow very tall (without the benefits of much side-shelter from high hills as we have in England). Chalk is also much better than heavy clay, which covers so much of lowland England.

I have no idea how tall the Polecat Copse trees will grow. They are in a superbly sheltered spot and the two tallest have continued to produce long leaders through the 14 years I've known them, though they've lost their leaders once or twice and some others in the same line now have rough, bushy tops (but are still growing). Given the right soil, and shelter from dehydrating winds, Douglas don't seem to be troubled by drought or high summer temperatures. I don't know the local conditions for the 65m tree in the Massif Central of France but I would assume that summers there are hotter and drier than in Surrey.

That said, I suspect drought-stress rather than lightning for the loss of the top of the Giant Sequoia opposite Angle Cottage. Lightning would have been more likely to strike the higher tree-tops of the bank to the west. In 1995 we had a very dry summer near my home in Hastings and many of the taller Giant Sequoias died back a few metres (and have now recovered but rounded off).

Stephen Verge, à 2014-11-16 09:46:03, a dit:
Hello Owen

Thanks. Yes I think the secret with Lower Greensand is the ability for trees to extract soil water much more easily due to the pores and matrix of the soil, coupled with a moderately acid ph and reasonable fertility. On a clay soil water holding capacity is obviously greater, but trees cannot extract it as well as on say Greensand due to the pores and soil matrix unfavorable for tree root growth and penetration. Subsequent capillary action of soil water through the soil is much better on Greensand. As it is a soft sandstone is must have weathered deeply as well. It also probably has no root depth restriction caused by an iron pan, which is frequent on acid sandy soils.

Ulmus and Quercus robur as an opposite example seems to love surface water gleys on clay vales.

It appears to me that Giant Sequoia much prefers sandy soils and the Bagshot Sand near my locality at Crowthorne and also at the Valley Gardens Near Windsor as you know grow big trees, despite only 600mm of rain, some 300mm less than at Polecat. Also Giant Sequoia and Douglas are adapted to grow on sandy well drained soils in their native habitat so it is no surprise.

The tree at Angle Cottage lost many metres due to crown dieback which I think is most likely lightning. Yes I have also seen Giant Sequoia die back due to drought, but I know that when lightning strikes Sequoias it often rarely leaves a scar on the trunk, possibly due to the insulation properties of the bark, however it sometimes does and I have seen trees blown apart in the most extreme examples. I know that Beech rarely leaves a scar and yet oak is badly affected. A difficult question and needs more research.

I know that the Massif Central is the wettest place in France with up to 2000mm, but one has to remember that with higher temperatures the evapotranspiration and summer soil moisture defict would be greater than at Polecat, so perhaps only the available rainfall/soil water there will be only slightly greater?

Windspeed is much less in Surrey than in Somerset, so perhaps they will grow to 60m+ at Polecat.



Conifers, à 2014-11-16 10:00:51, a dit:
"Giant Sequoia ... and I have seen trees blown apart in the most extreme examples"

Seehttp://www.pinetum.org/lightning.htm for an example!

Stephen Verge, à 2014-11-16 10:08:21, a dit:
Thanks Conifers

BANG!!! Wow that is an example, I have seen oak trees like this also.

RedRob, à 2014-11-17 18:22:13, édité à 2014-11-17 18:23:52, a dit:
Only visited this location once, 2011 and wish that I had had the laser then. Thank you for registering this Owen, it needed to be on here.


Is the Sequoiadendron near the cottage, here called 'King Kong' still likely to be 51 metres which you measured, assessed it as a few years ago or will it have added some height? I remember looking at this tree from angles and it would have been difficult to see the top and bottom to measure it. The Coast Redwood in the photo above is one at the top of the hill near the old big house but there is a taller one I am sure, immediately on the hillside above the 51 metre 'King Kong' Seqy. I took photos on an old mobile phone and have not been able to get the photos off it as don't have Bluetooth on my laptop. They would be 1.5MP photos so may not be that great. Anyway, this Coast Redwood looked pretty tall, slim and surely 40 metres plus. There is/was also a conifer plantation just the west of the 59 metre Douglas Fir grove, if I remember Larch and Spruce, Sitka snd Norway, which looked pretty tall.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-11-18 19:48:11, a dit:
Near Angle Cottage at Polecat Copse, the Sequoiadendron that died back around 2005 was the taller but slenderer of a pair. I had measured it at 48m in 2000 but may have underestimated - Alan's 170' c.1990 was presumably a bit too high. The fatter tree beside it (the one in 'Redwood World' has preserved its tip and had grown to 51m by 2011, but I can't guarantee how accurate this was either. I shall return with the laser in due course.

RedRob, à 2014-11-21 18:16:54, a dit:
I was taken with how red the trunks were of the Douglas at Polecat, Sequoiadendron colour if not even more red, due to the drier air according to Owen.

Are the 44 metre Larches still there at the location in Surrey Owen?

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-11-21 21:18:42, a dit:
I think 44m was Alan Mitchell's top height for the larches at Hascombe Hill in the 1980s. I visited in 2000 when I think I made one 43m. I plan to revisit sometime soon.

RedRob, à 2014-12-02 18:28:30, a dit:

Owen, are your Larches anywhere near the view in this photo?

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-12-03 18:12:27, a dit:
The larches are behind you in that Geograph photo, Rob. There are some Sequoia and Sequoiadendron crowning the hill-top which are very conspicuous across this part of Surrey, but the larch group are hidden in a small valley within the south-facing scarp.

Thanks too for the Center Parcs links. I'm not sure that the Grand Firs are as tall as they look. 50m has been quoted for the Sequoiadendron plantation there. I shall try to get on my next visit to Longleat.

Tobias, à 2014-12-03 08:59:17, a dit:
sehr schöner Baumstamm.

Bäume bei monumentaltrees zu registrieren macht mehr Spaß als bei einem Register wo nur Mammutbäume registriert werden! Oder?

xandru, à 2014-12-03 11:24:24, a dit:
Das ist tatsächlich einer der dicksten und zugleich einer der schönsten Stämme von Metasequoia in Europa. Der Baum hat Charakter! Das mit dem Spaß kann ich noch nicht vergleichen ;)

pipiltin, à 2014-11-30 06:31:22, édité à 2014-11-30 06:40:40, a dit:
The one in the front has a 7m girth and the one in the back is 7.5, there is my bike in the back.

Another must visit in the future
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Rayn, à 2014-06-20 11:32:02, édité à 2014-06-20 11:34:26, a dit:
There is a majestic elm at Övraböke, Halmstad, Sweden, as reported by Lars G Andersson in 2011. He believes it to be a pollarded tree, now abandoned, with an impressive girth of 10,6 metres. Looks multistemmed but still quite a monumental specimen.

I hope to visit this location some day but it's a long trip for me so it's unknown when I get the opportunity. I thought I might share it with you if someone are in the neighbourhood for some reason...


Lars G Anderssons coordinates: https://www.google.se/maps/place/56%C2%B055'03.8%22N+12%C2%B054'13.7%22E/@56.9177737,12.9037396,195m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

Can be found athttp://www.tradportalen.se/Observations.aspx#

Maarten Windemuller, à 2014-06-21 10:35:32, édité à 2014-06-22 13:14:57, a dit:
Hei Rayn,

Good suggestion, thank you.

Few weeks ago on the way north, we were in Båstad for the "Suntelbuche" (Vresbok) in the Norrvikens trädgård. We passed Halmstad and the area were Övraböke is.

I found three Ulmus > 10 m girth on Trädportalen. One between Rumskilla and Bodnaryd which are both on my list for next week. It looks that the one near Eksjö is on private ground (Google Earth).

Don't know if I succeed in adding more trees om my list now, depends on more than my own intention. Let's see what happens. At least good to know so I can put them on my list anyway for future visits.

Kind regards, Maarten

Rayn, à 2014-06-22 12:40:00, a dit:
Did you register the Suntelbuche/vresbok here?

Good luck in finding interesting trees on your journeys!

Best regards


Maarten Windemuller, à 2014-06-22 13:19:48, édité à 2014-06-22 18:39:17, a dit:
Hei Rayn,

Not yet, coming soon. 2013 we visited two in Northern Ireland and 2009 one in Germany (MT 13135). Hannover (MT 3409) is on the list. See also Suntelbuche on de.wikipedia site.

Best whishes, Maarten

Maarten Windemuller, à 2014-11-20 23:14:31, édité à 2014-11-20 23:21:21, a dit:

I see some of the trees you registered are near Gävle. Is it possible you maybe register the apple tree when you come in that area? I read the tree is still standing and 24/7 watched.

There is also facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/radda.appeltradet?fref=ts where I can follow this case and find sometimes links to newsfacts like this one.http://www.arbetarbladet.se/opinion/insandare/lat-det-bli-ett-julappeltrad

Kind regards,


Rayn, à 2014-11-26 18:31:43, a dit:
It's a few hours away from me, but I'll try to give it a visit and take some photos but I can't say when, quite busy right now with work and familythings etc... Hopefully it will be left standing for a litle while longer...

Maarten Windemuller, à 2014-11-29 23:58:47, édité à 2014-11-30 10:59:48, a dit:
Hei Rayn, Thanks, it looks like the people there are very persistent, which is a good thing when this kind of projects are developed without caring these kind of elements. In many cases these valuable elements can be integrated in plans if people really want to do so.

Have good times with family and frends end of the year. Take your time.

Best wishes, Maarten

For readers who wonder what's this about, see: https://www.facebook.com/radda.appeltradet/info?tab=page_info Use Google Translate to get the point of what this is about.

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Sjaakboom, à 2014-11-28 06:28:08, a dit:

Graag wil ik u uitnodigen in het beschermde kloosterdorp Steyl. Op uw pagina staat slechts 1 Sequoia (mammoet) uit +- 1880. Eenzelfde soort staat bij ons op Sequoiahof naast ons woonhuis. Deze is met zekerheid hoger. Daarnaast staan op het hofje nog een Amerikaanse eik en een wilde kastanje, beiden uit circa 1860. Verder ligt er naast ons woonhuis een botanische tuin die in 1933 is aangelegd. Er staan echter ook bomen van het vroegere landgoed. Al met al een boomrijke omgeving. Met vriendelijke groet, sjaak Smetsers www.moeejendaag.nl tel 06-21878303

BRETON, à 2014-11-27 20:41:33, a dit:
Impossible de completer le lieu dit de l' arbre planté La houssaye

Date de Plantation avant 1849

Sorbus Domestica

Commune Moree 41160 Loir et Cher France

à1.30m du sol , 305 cm

peut être le 6 eme de France

Limite de route communale et intersection de 2 parcelles Villedieu et Boisaubert

18 m de haut

bon etat

Exposé au grand vent, bon systeme racinaire, mare à cote, prairie sans produits engrais chimiques

Va etre classe dans le PLU 2015

JF BRETON EX Chef Jardinier Jardin du Luxembourg Paris

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young, à 2014-11-26 15:34:20, a dit:

Hans Verbaandert, à 2014-11-26 01:29:52, a dit:
Tweestammig, beide zijde zichtbaar

xandru, à 2014-11-25 21:07:43, a dit:

The tallest tree in the world
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young, à 2014-11-25 15:43:03, édité à 2014-11-25 15:44:30, a dit:
the tree is so cool that i wish i had it

Conifers, à 2014-11-23 18:39:58, édité à 2014-11-23 18:40:30, a dit:
Abies forrestii or close relative.

Edit: Any cones near the top?

wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-23 18:43:24, a dit:
There are a few cones on the ends of the top branches.
Conifers, à 2014-11-23 18:48:08, a dit:
Can you get a pic, please! Also a pic of a shoot showing the underside would help. Thanks!
Conifers, à 2014-11-23 18:48:42, a dit:
Oh, and the sharper the focus, the better ;-)
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-23 19:18:47, a dit:
I know!! :-) it was a bit windy when I was taking the picture!!
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-23 22:28:11, a dit:
From memory I can't remember the cones being as thick as A. Forrestii but I will upload a picture of them.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-11-22 22:48:58, a dit:
This looks to be a Abies koreana

Greetings, Martin Tijdgat

wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-22 23:39:16, a dit:
Hello, thanks for this, I wasn't sure as the cones were at the very top of the tree.

Conifers, à 2014-11-23 00:27:51, a dit:
Not quite right for Abies koreana, looks more like Abies × arnoldiana (hybrid between Abies koreana and Abies veitchii) to me.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-11-23 00:51:42, a dit:

Thanks, that is a new one for me. How do you keep A. Koreana and A. X arnoldiana apart?

Conifers, à 2014-11-23 18:46:21, a dit:
The hybrid is of course intermediate between the parents. Leaf length / width ratio (A. koreana has shorter, broader needles, A. veitchii longer, slenderer needles), and the degree of white below (A. koreana more vivid white often covering the full width of the underside, A. veitchii less vivid white and usually in two bands with the green midrib showing easily) are the best features to look for.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-11-23 12:28:37, a dit:
Love this kind off fotograph. It shows the strenght of this tree and the use ( by children?). Thanks! Martin Tijdgat
wwhiteside97, à 2014-11-23 13:27:21, a dit:
Hi, yes it is a popular tree for children and for family photos too.

Martin Tijdgat, à 2014-11-22 22:43:05, a dit:

Wat een mooie foto, kleur, bastpatroon en een toefje groen; alles klopt.

Marc Meyer, à 2014-11-23 09:43:35, a dit:
Bedankt Martin!



GregorSamsa, à 2014-11-22 00:42:37, a dit:
The person is approximately 1.80m tall.

Die Person ist ca. 1,80m groß.

Alberto C F, à 2014-11-22 10:44:53, a dit:
I think it is "Populus Alba"
Conifers, à 2014-11-23 00:21:35, a dit:
Agree, Populus alba

They set fire on one of the best oaks in Europe!
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Jeroen Pater, à 2014-11-19 08:25:38, édité à 2014-11-19 08:32:54, a dit:
I just got the news today from my friend Krzysztof Borkowski from Poland that Chrobry oak has set on fire:


I hope it will survive, but the pictures look very bad.

It is very sad news. The Chrobry oak is one of the most impressive oak trees in Europe. Why are people doing this!?



Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-11-19 23:51:47, édité à 2014-11-19 23:52:57, a dit:
Indeed very sad and incredible that people do this. This is indeed one of the most impressive oaks I have ever visited.

Jeroen Philippona

Stephen Verge, à 2014-11-20 08:13:10, a dit:
I'm afraid I'm in despair with the human race!

The heat involved is likely to have cooked the sapwood and cambium layer, I am not hopeful it will survive. The Sherwood Oak in Nottinghamshire was also set on fire in the past, but it has survived.

Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-11-20 20:15:47, édité à 2014-11-20 21:58:34, a dit:
Jeroen Pater and I visited this oak at a day in November 1999. At the same day we also visited the oak Napoleon in Zabor, somewhat more to the north-east, wich had a girth of even 10.45 m and was the biggest circumferenced oak of Poland at that time. It was also hollow and a few years later this oak also was set on fire. It survived, but the burning was repeated after a few years and the oak died.

The biggest girthed tree of the Netherlands, a hollow Sweet Chestnut (see Kastanjedal ) also was set on fire several times, the last time in 2005 and till now has survived.

So I hope Chrobry will stay alive as well.


Rainer Lippert, à 2014-11-20 21:12:06, a dit:

die Eiche in Hornoldendorf (Außenmauer des Ritterguts) wurde vor zwei Jahren auch in Brand gesetzt. Letztes Jahr hat es noch so ausgesehen, als ob sie es wohl nicht überlebt. In diesem Jahr, als ich dort war, hat sich wieder recht viel grün gezeigt. Und zwar an Ästen, die noch 2013 kahl waren. Sie scheint sich also zu erholen. Vielleicht schafft es ja diese Eiche hier auch so wie die in Hornoldendorf. Hoffen wir also mal.

Viele Grüße,


KoutaR, à 2014-11-20 22:57:55, a dit:
This may be a good reason not to publish record tree locations (though trees like the oak in question cannot be kept secret).

Jeroen Pater, à 2014-11-21 06:29:22, a dit:
I don't think keeping trees a secret is a good idea. They give Chrobry a value of 4.300000 (I think) zlotty. That is a lot of money. If the Chrobry oak is that expensive, why did they not put smoke and heat detectors inside.

I think a better solution is to some how close the gabs of a hollow tree, so nothing that can burn can get in. It won't work with all hollow trees, but I think it will work with a lot of them. I think is is very hard to burn a tree that has a trunk with no gabs.


Stephen Verge, à 2014-11-21 07:47:16, a dit:
Hello All

Yes Kouta I agree

Sadly keeping champion trees secret from the public is the only way to protect them from vandalism. But in this case the tree was so well known it was impossible. As I have said before, in the UK there are many rare plants, where location details are kept deliberately vague to ensure protection.

The recent climbing damage to the 66m Douglas fir in Scotland (not deliberate vandalism) I feel is a wake up call not to give exact location details for champion trees and giving the 'wider' general public this information is a risk to them. But recording and uploading them is perfectly acceptable on MT.

I hope those responsible are caught and prosecuted!

Lets hope the tree survives

Jeroen Philippona, à 2014-11-22 00:27:45, a dit:
Indeed this tree was to famous to hide it from the public. But, the other very big oak in Poland, called Napoleon at Zabor, was not well known, in fact it was a rather secret tree standing at a lonely place to be found only by insiders along a small sand road. It was set on fire very probable by local young boys and I suppose this also was the case with the Chrobry oak, like with the "Kabouterboom", the big Sweet Chestnut in Holland.

So I think most of these hollow old trees are more at risk from local young people than from people from elsewere.


Andrew Weber, à 2014-11-22 13:13:13, édité à 2014-11-22 13:27:23, a dit:
Moreover, in Poland many big trees, especially oaks, were set on fire, not only the biggest. I have seen in 2014 a few oaks with girth ranging from 6,5 to 8 metres that also suffered an arson and they usually grew in remote places.. So the largest trees should be preserved rather by fence, because cameras could be stolen indeed.. And it is a matter of local government that trees are conserved or 'unwanted', like here, Chrześcijanin (the Christian) Oak in Poland: street.

All in all, I hope that miracle will happen and Chrobry will survive, but it is horrible that someone wants to destroy peaceful monumental trees..

Best regards,


RedRob, à 2014-11-21 18:09:18, a dit:
The 42.5 metre Lime is superb, love the shape. The Chestnut almost looks like it is a weeping one. Any other tall trees here Owen, Sycamore, Sweet Chestnut, anything?

Have you been around here Stephen?

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, à 2014-11-21 21:23:18, a dit:
No. The only old (and tall) trees in the park here are the limes and sweet chestnuts. Common Lime also exceeds 40m nearby at Althorp and Castle Ashby parks - it likes the Jurassic limestone.

Stephen Verge, à 2014-11-22 11:22:24, a dit:
Hi Rob

No I have not visited here, about 70 miles North of me. Most of the locations I know are from Oxon southwards.

There are also some big Limes near me too.


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