Hi !
Thank for all your pictures of Moreton ficus.
It's possible that you can use decameter to take girth trunk ?
It's just for add data for this species and you have some large trees in your state.
Hello,
I have visited and made a list of approximately 80 Moreton Bay Figs in California. Many of them do have tree data associated with them, but a lot do not. I can add tree data later but first I would like to just add the tree locations and some pictures. I also have numerous pictures of each of these trees, some quite spectacular.
Thank you.
Michael Balmages
Ok.
It's a great work !
Why do you are specialized of Moreton Bay Figs ? It's a preference ?
Good continuation.
Hi Michael,
it's great to see you adding so much nice specimens of these trees.
Welcome at the site and do not hesitate to ask me or anyone if you have any questions or ideas to make the site better or user friendly.
Kind regards,
Tim
Mooie laan met in totaal 20 rode beuken. Zoals zo vaak staan de dikste exemplaren aan het begin en het einde van de laan. Deze bomen krijgen het meeste licht.
Nardo,
vanuit die redenering zou de boom langs de zuidkant van het rijtje opvallend dikker moeten zijn, terwijl het verschil met de meest noordelijke boom veel minder uitgesproken zal zijn.
Ik vermoed dat de ruimte die de bomen aan het einde van het rijtje meer ruimte ter beschikking hebben voor hun wortels en dat ze onder andere daardoor beter kunnen groeien.
Licht is zeker een factor, maar het is niet de enige factor.
Hoi WiPe,
Je hebt gelijk hoor. Bij nader inzien denk ik inderdaad niet dat het zozeer het licht is waardoor de bomen aan het einde van de rij dikker zijn. Licht is enkel een catalysator bij de fotosynthese. Je hebt er "voldoende" van nodig, maar ook niet meer dan dat. Het gaat er natuurlijk om dat de bomen aan het einde van de rij een veel groter bladoppervlakte hebben om CO2 (koolstofdioxide) op te nemen. Verder hebben de wortels ook meer ruimte, dus kunnen ze ook meer H2O (water) opnemen.
Goedenavond,
Ik heb de coordinaten van de beuk 8298 aangepast.
Als vrijwilliger op dit landgoed weet ik dat die in eerste instantie niet op de juiste plaats op de kaart was neergezet.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Eric Hoogstraat
Dank voor de bijdrage. Ik had wat moeite om achter mijn scherm de exacte plaats te bepalen. Ik hoop dat u in staat bent ook het plantjaar te achterhalen en eventueel een hoogtemeting of -schatting te doen.
Graag gedaan. Zo'n plaatsbepaling op een twee-dimensionale luchtfoto is ook lastig en dan helpt lokale kennis, vandaar.
Een hoogtebepaling... daar is een truukje voor maar dat weet ik niet precies, ik zal eens rondvragen. Zodra ik de hoogte weet zal ik die vermelden.
Een plantdatum zal lastig te achterhalen zijn. Ik weet wel dat het park in de tweede helft van de 18de eeuw in de huidige vorm (Engelse landschapstijl) is aangelegd dus de boom kan maximaal 250 jaar oud zijn. Maar het is goed mogelijk dat deze van later datum is. Ik zal proberen dit uit te vinden en dan vermeld ik dat ook wel.
Groeten,
Eric Hoogstraat
Hallo Erik,
Hier vind je een uitgebreide discussie over de beschikbare methoden en de voors en tegens.http://www.monumentaltrees.com/nl/gebruikers/JeroenZutphen14/overleg/#301
Ik heb eerder overwogen zo'n hoogtemeter waar ze het over hebben te kopen, maar vind hem te prijzig. Dat betekent dat voor de meeste mensen slechts een educated guess mogelijk is. Maar er lopen hier een paar professionele dendrologen rond, die een dergelijk apparaat hebben. Ze zullen wel eens een keer langs lopen schat ik in.
Groet
Wim Brinkerink
Hallo Eric,
welkom op deze website!
Enkele min of meer eenvoudige methodes om de hoogte van een boom te schatten kan je vinden op:http://www.monumentaltrees.com/nl/content/hoogtemeten/
Groeten,
Tim
Dag Wim en Tim,
De tips over het bij benadering bepalen van de hoogte heb ik gelezen.
Een apparaat aanschaffen om dat te doen ben ik niet van plan, voor mij persoonlijk is het absoluut niet belangrijk hoe hoog een boom is... zonder die wetenschap kan ik er ook van genieten! Maar voor de volledigheid van de informatie op deze site kan het een welkome aanvulling zijn.
Ook de discussie over de bruikbaarheid van de diverse methodes heb ik gelezen. Zoals zo vaak heeft elke methode voors en tegens. Welke methode in dit geval bruikbaar is zal ik moeten uitzoeken.
Wordt vervolgd!
Groet,
Eric
Deze Taxus is vanuit de struikvorm tot een meerstammige boom doorgegroeid. Mogelijk betreft het de cultivar Dovastoniana, een oude cv uit 1777. Vooral in de 19e eeuw populair in parken en grote tuinen. Zie ook de taxus van Brummen.
Dank voor de info. Je zou het overigens niet zeggen, omdat de basis een vrij stevige compacte massa is.
Hi Sisley thanks for the supplement. It shows the tree in the winter and all seasons have their own specialities. I had this tree in my archive a long time. I finally uploaded it and it is worth it. We surely agree on that. Later on I will upload some text. If you want you can make some text and I will translate it. If you don't feel for it, it's ok off course.
Wim
The only time when I visited this old lime tree, I was enchanted by his form and by the place where he lives.
Yes, I can make some text for many trees.
I had long time write description trees for 'Krapoarboricole',but I believe that we can't make so long text in this site ?
http://krapooarboricole.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/tilleul-de-schoenenbourg-bas-rhin/
For example, you want write the story of some trees, the differents uses of the species, health states,... ?
Hi Sisley,
It is not up to me to decide what's appropriate or not and I think there isn't anyone who wants to decide that. So let me just say how I see it. And that's just one opinion, no more, no less.
I am familiair with krapoarboricole. I have placed some trees on it myself. I have used it to prepare my last visit to France. And I will keep on doing it. It's a very helpfull and nice site.
But I think that Dutch are more businesslike than French. The Dutch are interested, but not very poëtic. I think that "in general" the descriptions on Krapo... are in a poëtic mode that cannot work in the Netherlands... Nevertheless I think Dutch are open to change and new visions. So I think that you should feel free to react in your own way. But the consequence is that not everybody will like it. In my opinion you should try to find a nice compromise between the French and Dutch way of doing. I suggest...trial and error... Don't be afraid for it. We'll see how it works out. The Dutch are still quite tolerant and also curious. And...very respectful to the french...
Greetings and good luck.
Wim
And... I still enjoy Krapoarboricole....
Ok, I must see for which tree we can uploaded text.
I would know the description who are most popular ?
It's true that some specimens need text. Measures and pictures are essential but some tree(s) need text to make the document more valuable.
Good luck. I can give an example I just saw on the site, alltough it will be difficult for you te read, because it is technical and in Dutch. If you look at the description of Lucombe Oak in Kew Gardens in Londen, it's an elaborate and efficiënt text. Nevertheless I think more "folk" stories are interesting just as well. And I think the initiators and keepers of this site will sooner or later have to think about leaving English texts on this site. In view of the development of this site with more and more international visitors, one day it wil have to be dealt with.
Why not try some text about Schoenenbourg lime?. There is enough to tell about it.
Good luck again.
Wim
Hi isley,
I have seen that some descriptions are in English. So what's letting you? . In your situation I wouldn't hesitate to write down your impressions, knowledge and feeling to a tree. I am curious about your contributions. Please, act naturally, surprise us, and tell us what's important and worth knowing aabout trees.
Wim
Of course everybody can write his/her own style text at this website. I trink that the goal of the initiator Tim is that contributors to the site feel free to write their own impressions or to write more objective information. For myself I prefer more a dendrologic, historical and sometimes (semi-)scientific style, as for me this website in part is a database with an overvieuw of monumental trees, with photos and information. But of course those trees are often inspiring, beautiful and interesting. They can stimulate poetic feelings, so I think there should be room for people to express their feelings in a poetic way. Perhaps it should be the best that with each tree there is room for more historical and dendrological type of information and a special place for poetical and emotional reactions.
This website is in five languages. Sisley should write in French, this should stimulate other French people to contribute more to the site. Myself I write most texts in Dutch but when I have time for it translate them also in English.
Regards, Jeroen
I try to write the whole in english.
It's for practice my language, and I see that the whole of the readers are strangers (not french).
I ask me that if I try to write in french, the translation will be correct to read for the others person ?
Of course, my first objectif is the dendrologic data. But when I can write a text with my impressions I would a little get the feeling of the meet.
This is came with the many text that I have wrote for the blog 'Krapoarboricole'.
In the beginning to my participation (09/08) for him,I've not measure the importance of the numbers of trees that I will found and the number of person that I will meet.
The project of the trees founding is a enormous story in which everybody can bring a little of the edification to etablish a big international league.
I agree with Jeroen. Everybody's free to write his/her own texts and together we might come up with a valuable description of each tree in any language, more or less like e.g. Wikipedia works.
Kind regards,
Tim
Can you add a photo of the foliage, please? From what is visible of the leaves here, I suspect this tree may be the natural hybris Quercus × rosacea (hybrid between Q. robur and Q. petraea).
Photo taken from Google (C) Maps / Street View
Is this a redwood or meta-sequioa ?
Buckingham Palace in the background.
Well, seeing these little "knees" on the ground of the other picture, I would say it is Taxodium distichum.
Hi Moritz, I think you have a valid point. I also compared the leaves from a picture of a Taxodium Distichum on this site with what i remember how they looked and there is lot of similarity. Also the shape is maybe to slim for a redwood.
Taxodium has a round top, while the top of Metasequoia is very sharp pointed. This is, without any boubt, a Taxodium.
Wat een gedrocht... ik blijf het een vreemd zicht vinden, die treurende mammoetbomen.
Groeten,
Tim
Toen we er vorige week waren noemden wij het de lelijkste boom van Frankrijk op de lelijkste plek.
Han
Daar kan ik inkomen...
Beautiful pictures and measurement !!
Today we knows the really height of this oaks trees from Bercé.
In the past I have read a measure of 49,4 for the tallest but it's not so remote in terms of height.
It's true that 1 m is 1 m and for this records trees, I would them see in the future for compare to current data.
Currently studies have shown that trees grow in height much greater than before. This would be of greater concentration of CO2 into the
atmosphere.
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In France are a lot of old regular dense grove, they was before maintened by the forest Service under the governance of Colbert for product very long trunk without branches for marine timber construction.
I know that the annual growth of the ring of Tronçais oaks is between 1,6 and 1,8 mm and this for all the phase of growth.The trunks are very regular and concentric to the diameter of the base to the first branches. ( "The friends of the forest of Tronçais - A tour in Tronçais in 40 remarkable trees; 2010)
http://aymeric-bourgain.net/micmac/2010/10/17/un-tour-en-troncais-en-40-arbres-remarquables/
I live in Grays harbor county, city, Montesano and in our small park we have sequioas. They are about eighty years old. Our local city government is looking to take them down. They say there at risk, branches falling out, one of the tops died out back in 07, I'm not an expert but I think it was do to an ice storm at that time. Since then they look fine. I need to know if a core inspection can be done to determine how sound the trees are. The trees are surounded by sidewalks and streets. We live on the edge of the Olympics so I would think they are getting plenty of water. How far down do the tap roots go in the sequioas? Also in the bark on some of them there are perfectly five to ten inch holes, whats with that, a disease, fungus, or just a normal thing? Oh by the way thats Washington state, I didn't mention that at the beginning. I worked for the city for thirty yrs. in the parks, so I am very concerned about this proposal of taking the trees down, so I need as much facts as possible about Sequioas. If you could enlighten me with some information I would be most appreciative. Thank you, Bill Olson
It's really not easy to explain the health of a tree from a distance.
Do you know of people who can diagnose a particular disease on trees (ranger, tree climber, an expert in the mechanics of living wood and various pathogens, ...)?
Giant sequoias, if the ground allows it, can have very long creeping roots. However they need a constant humidity and a good water supply.
It's any evidence of insect damage?
The best thing would really make a competent person on site to establish an assessment of the potential danger of the tree.
Hoe is het mogelijk dat het me niet lukt om 4 foto's toe te voegen aan de Taxus baccata, die in Hall staat op het erf van een oude boerderij aan de Slatweg 15?
Ik volg iedere keer alle aangegeven stappen die het programma aangeeft.
Maar elke keer staan ze niet op de site, als ik er mee klaar ben.
Het is me wel gelukt om 2 foto's van een Cercidiphyllum in Zevenaar op de site toe te voegen.
groeten Jaap Kuip jjkuip@online.nl
Hallo Jaap,
ik heb het ook eens geprobeerd met een testfoto via de linkhttp://www.monumentaltrees.com/nl/upload/302d302d6e6c642d31362d3336362d333134302d333631352d343339352d37313531 en dat is wel gelukt.
Kan je nog eens proberen en indien het niet lukt de link van de pagina meedelen, alsook of je onderaan na het ingeven van de info op "opslaan" drukte?
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Tim
Hi all,
I have inserted more than 1000 Hungarian trees, villages, measurements, ... in the database from György Pósfai's collection with his permission.
See:
http://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/hun/
http://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/records/hun/
Kind regards,
Tim
Sisley,
You wrote this tree has been measured with a laser and the sine method in 2001. Who measured it? I thought you bought a laser this or last year.
Kouta
Yes, sorry for this wrong news. I did'nt pay attention, how can I change the author name of the measures ?
The measure was make by Jacques GUENECO (geometer) and G.COLIN (foret ressearcher in Nancy - Meurthe et Moselle, 54000) in 2001 and the others were make between 1991 and 2001 by the same persons.
The two docs, who are détailed some tall Douglas and Picea abies in Alsace and Vosges in the north-east of France :
http://krapooarboricole.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/dernieres-nouvelles-des-geants-de-moselle-6-pages-en-pdf.pdf
http://documents.irevues.inist.fr/bitstream/handle/2042/4920/283_288.pdf?sequence=1
Tim must change the name. I should have rights to do it but the option "Add new person" does not appear in the "Measured by" list.
Sisley, you wrote you measured the girth in the 20th of April. Didn't you measure the height? It could now be even a European record.
Kouta
Ok, the names authors can be change by Tim when he will see this message.
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I was just pass near the trees and I had not my nikon with me, but I must to go in this place in the beginning of May.
Yes, it can be a new record ?!!..
We will see this in a few weeks.
I've changed the registered person to J. Gueneco & G. Colin.
You are right Kouta, the "Add new person" does not yet appear in that list. I will add it, but in the meantime you can add a person in any other list where the "Add new person" does appear.
Regards,
Tim
Largest trees for countries :
fr
I would asked why some girth specimens that I have registred are not listed in the global records list from the site ?
ex: the scots pine '7128', the common pear tree '4569'
Thank.
Hi Sisley,
that is because you have not indicated the height measurements for these trees are "exact" measurements. I see you indicated these measurements as "estimations based on experience". Only exact tree measurements are used for the record lists.
See:http://www.monumentaltrees.com/nl/overleg/115#301
If these measurements were indeed exact measurements, you can edit these measurements and change the registered measurement method. Then these trees will appear in the record lists.
Kind regards,
Tim
Hi Sisley,
This pine is also not in the girth list while you have marked it as a multitrunk tree: those are not shown in the normal list ordered on girth. You can show them by pushing the button "show multi trunk trees".
Jeroen
New European record! Congratulations! Also on the 35-metre Prunus avium which is a record, too.
Kouta
Thank !
I hope discover more record species in my country, but it's increasingly difficult to found new tall trees as this specimens.
It's not impossible that are prunus avium and carpinus betulus slightly taller in this forests (35,5-37 m).
Sisley,
I wrote a comment to you today here (a bit wrong place):
http://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/photos/6743/#c
Kouta
Sisley,
I see you have visited forests & trees in western Germany, too. Near Nohfelden, Rheinland Pfalz, there would be very tall larches (Larix decidua). The tallest is claimed to be 50 m tall, it would be a European record. The location is a bit too far for me; perhaps you live closer to it. It would be great if you could go to measure there. You find some information if you make a Google search 'Nohfelden lärche "50 meter"'. I don't know how your German is; if you cannot read it, you can use the Google Translator.
Kouta
Ok,
I live not so far away from this place, I will go found this year the larix tree.
If you have others infos for the Saarland and Rheinland Pfalz I'm ok.
