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Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-12-17 12:17:54, said:
A few weeks ago I mentioned a newly met problem with uploading pictures. My new system operates under Windows 8. The Windows explorer automatically rotates pictures 90% if they are taken vertical. For everyone who will meet this problem in due time, there isn't an easy solution. This problem is caused by Microsoft and Microsoft takes no responsibility, so I learned on a microsoft-community blog. I have asked the question to my computer manufacturer and to the FAQ man of a well-known Computer-magazine. The manufacturer said that it is a problem of the Microsoft software and they cannot help. The FAQ man of the computer magazine says, I have to process the picture with a qualitatively good rotating-program.

In the meantime I solve this problem by uploading the pictures on my second system (windows 7) and using my network to upload them to my main computer. So be prepared all, once you switch to Windows 8, you will meet the same problem.



Turkije = Azië of Europa of allebei?
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Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-12-12 22:40:00, said:
Hi Tim,

Ik heb net een tripje naar Turkije gemaakt. Wel wat aardige bomen gezien. Ik ga ze plaatsen. Een kernvraag is echter of op onze database Turkije alleen Europa is (bestaand0 of ook via Azië benaderd/bereikt kan worden. Ik heb de neiging om nu mijn bomen onder Turkije, Europa te uploaden. Dat is wellicht niet correct, omdat Antalya en Cappadocië tot het werelddeel Azië behoren.


Martin Tijdgat, at 2014-12-12 23:31:46, said:
Wim,

Wees hier helder en transparant. De Bosporus en Zee van Marmora vormen de grens tussen Europa en Azie. Bomen ten westen van deze wateren horen in Europa te worden geregistreerd. De overige bomen horen in Azie thuis.

Groet, Martin


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-12-13 00:09:51, said:
Hi Martin,

Staatkundig klopt dat. Turkije is voor een klein deel Europa en een groot deel Azië. In onze database is Turkije echter geheel onder Europa geclassificeerd. Dus alle provincies staan onder Europa. Ik kan (geloof ik) geen bomen onder Turkije Azië invoeren tenzij ik me vergis. Tim moet daar maar uitsluitsel over geven. In essentie vind ik echter wel dat het grootste deel van Turkije staatkundig onder Azië valt.

Cultureel denk ik daar genuanceerder over sinds mijn laatste bezoek,

Maar dat doet er niet echt toe. We hebben hier toch een staatkundige classificatie?

Groet Wim.


Conifers, at 2014-12-13 14:50:18, said:
Russia is of course also in both continents, which could be significant if we get many trees there.

For completeness, Kazakhstan also has (a small) part in Europe, part (most) in Asia. Mostly treeless steppe, but there could be some large Populus or Salix on the banks of the Ural River (the boundary between Europe and Asia there).


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-12-13 19:14:01, said:
Hi Conifers,

I agree that more diffuse situations exist. Concerning Turky, the only European part of Turky is the west of Istanbul. The overwhelming rest of the country is Asian Let's say about 99%. In this database I haven't any problems if Tim decides that Turky belongs Europe. Politically I have problems with that idea, but we are not in politics here.

Wim



Turkije, uitsluitend onder Europa?
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Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-12-13 13:41:11, said:
Hi Tim,

Ik heb gisteren een onderwerp opgevoerd over het feit dat Turkije zowel in Europa en Azië ligt en hoe dat in deze database is opgenomen. Ik had deze vraag beter in jouw overleg kunnen starten. Ik mag er immers niet van uitgaan dat jij alles ziet. Zou jij willen reageren op dat onderwerp. Het lijkt me ook nuttig dat anderen het weten, vandaar dat ik het als algemeen onderwerp heb gepost.



Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-11-19 16:41:16, said:
Die Eucalyptussen zijn prachtig in Spanje. Jammer dat er fotografisch weinig eer valt te behalen met die vracht aan auto's er omheen.


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-11-14 17:41:14, said:
Hallo Leo en/of Jeroen.

Ik ben vandaag opnieuw langs geweest ij deze machtige platanen. Dat heb ik wel vaker gedaan, maar ik vond het steeds niet de moeite waard om ze te meten. Toen ik me realiseerde dat de laatste meting uit 2009 stamt, dacht ik dat ik deze bomen de eerste de beste keer dat ik in Amsterdam zou zijn, moest opmeten. Vandaag heb ik dat gedaan. Tot mijn spijt zijn de resultaten weer niet corresponderend met jullie eerdere metingen. De boom met de lage zijtak London plane (Platanus × hispanica) '1874'is volgens mijn metingen dunner dan de ander London plane (Platanus × hispanica) '1876'. Ik wil graag de juiste maten opvoeren. Kan het zijn dat jij/jullie destijds de metingen hebben verwisseld?


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-11-14 19:43:41, said:
Aanvulling,

Ik heb een aantal oude foto's uit 2012 verwijderd. Ik denk dat het beeld daardoor helderder wordt met de nieuwe geüp

loade foto's.


Jeroen Philippona, at 2014-11-14 20:05:01, edited at 2014-11-14 20:12:05, said:
Hoi Wim,

In juni 2006 waren Leo en ik met hoofdstedelijk bomenconsulent Hans Kaljee bij de bomen en hebben ze gemeten, zie de foto met mij. Die meting staat echter niet op MT. De meting uit 2009 is van Leo, ik was daar niet bij. Als jij nu een andere boom als dikste meet, kan het zijn dat Leo foto en meting heeft verwisseld maar ik maak vaker vreemde groeispurts mee bij bomen die moeilijk zijn te verklaren.

Heb je overigens je eigen foto's verwijderd?

Jeroen


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-11-14 20:11:40, said:
Hallo Jeroen,

Uiteraard heb ik alleen mijn eigen foto's verwijderd. Dank voor je opmerking over de groeispurt.

Wim


Leo Goudzwaard, at 2014-11-15 12:56:04, said:
hallo Wim, ze zijn allebei gegroeid maar de een meer dan de ander, dat kan best hoor, bovendien zijn beide metingen niet op exact dezelfde plaats uitgevoerd, omdat er geen stippen op de stam staan.

Goed dat je ze gemeten hebt, dit levert op termijn veel groeigegevens van monumentale bomen op.

Leo



Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-09-29 15:48:19, said:
Very nice picture
Frank Gyssling, at 2014-11-06 17:50:38, said:
Sehr schöne Aufnahme. Ich hätte die linke Seite noch etwas beschnitten (Luftkabel).Damit würde auch die Sonne aus dem Zentrum rücken.

viele Grüße Frank

derWaldfotograf, at 2014-11-12 10:16:12, said:
Hallo Frank, Hallo Wim,

Danke für eure positiven Kommentare.

Eigentlich gehört der Baum auf die rechte Seite des Bildes.

Das war aber leider vom Standort aus nicht machbar. Darum meine Entscheidung das Bild so wie gesehen zu gestalten.

Ich wollte unbedingt den ganzen Baum in seiner Schönheit zeigen.

Ps. Antworten kann ich leider nur auf Deutsch.

Gruß

Burkhard


English Main page not working
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Conifers, at 2014-11-04 09:25:57, said:
The English main pagehttp://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/ is giving me an error message:

Warning: mysql_connect(): User monumentaltrees already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /customers/0/1/c/monumentaltrees.com/httpd.www/login/database.php on line 72 User monumentaltrees already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections

The rest of the site seems to be working OK, though.


Han van Meegeren, at 2014-11-04 11:48:46, said:
Conifers

That's not specific the problem with the englisch mainpage. Sometimes the Dutch one has the same errors. I think the server is sometimes overloaded. Perhaps Tim has an answer for this problem.

Greetings HAn


Conifers, at 2014-11-04 12:12:43, said:
Thanks!

Conifers, at 2014-11-06 09:37:08, said:
Still happening, I have had to bookmark one of the sub-pages like 'Discussion' to enter MT. This is OK for me as I know how to do this, but it will stop new visitors from finding out about the site, which is sad. Also the low number of recent additions suggests some established members are not being able to post at the moment. Hope it can be solved soon!

Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-11-06 17:05:58, said:
I'va had serious problems in signing in. And indeed I have scarcely been able to upload or even see what's happening. Furthermore I have met a problem in uploading. At the moment it prevents me from being all too active. I have bought a new computer. Its operating system is windows 8.1. This OS rotates the taken pictures in the vertical form if they are taken that way. The problem is that the photo's consequently appear horizontal....

I have asked Packard Bell for a solution. (Microsoft won't discuss this problem because I have a OEM version). Packard Bell says that this is a known problem in Windows 8 and they cannot do anything. I have the same problem with the database of "De Bomenstichting" .

Will be continued. I have asked a problem manager of a computer magazine for a solution.

Will be continued.


RedRob, at 2014-11-06 17:21:28, said:
Funny, I am the archetypal 'problem user' on MT but not experiencing any of these problems. What I did find was using Mozilla Firefox is much better than Internet Explorer 9 which kept coming up with the message 'Monumentaltrees.com is not responding' 'Recover webpage?'

Han van Meegeren, at 2014-11-06 17:32:54, said:
I've just send a mail to Tim about these problems.

Greets, Han


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-11-06 18:31:28, said:
I have tried IE 11, Google chrome and Mozilla Firefox. The problems occured with all three browsers. But now the problems seem to be finished. ?

Tim, at 2014-11-07 08:24:20, said:
Hi,

I'm aware of these problems but I'm still thinking about decent solution.

The cause is that at certain moments there are a lot of Chinese visitors (likely all of them automated robots) from Chinese search engines like Baidu etc. These hammer the site each one creating a connection to the database and making some queries (e.g. to show the recent changes list) making my database overloaded.

I could simply block these, but this would prevent the site from popping up in Baidu search results (and the Baidu robots don't show this behaviour all the time), but that might be a solution for now. Other bots like the one from Google behave more nicely, spreading their requests in time. A better solution would be to make the querying lighter, by e.g. also caching the recent changes list so not every user has to build up this list independently.

The non availability is always a temporary issue that can happen at any moment (for Conifers by coincidence at the main page), usually when there are a lot of users active at the same time.

Maybe I'll block Chinese users for the moment, and work on a decent solution later. Currently my time for the site is consumed by work on the cultivar/variety editing possibilities.

Kind regards,

Tim


Conifers, at 2014-11-08 16:31:29, said:
Thanks for checking, Tim!

While it would be very nice to get some trees from China, it hasn't happened yet. So I'd agree with blocking their robots (if feasible!), even if it does mean fewer potential 'real' Chinese visitors to the site.


Rainer Lippert, at 2014-11-10 21:34:22, said:
Hallo,

ich habe seit gestern Mittag keinen Zugriff mehr auf MT. Jetzt geht es auch nicht. Ich erhalte immer die oben genannte Fehlermeldung. Das ganze allerdings nur bei Firefox. Erst jetzt bin ich auf die Idee gekommen, mal den IE zu verwenden. Da geht MT, konnte so auch diese Diskussion finden.

Viele Grüße,

Rainer



RedRob, at 2014-10-24 16:30:17, edited at 2014-10-26 17:10:39, said:
Only two Common Laburnums registered! I wish I had realised this as have seen quite a few good sized Laburnums, probably around 10 metres, but didn't record them as have been meaning to visit Wakefield Castle to measure and confirm the B&I champion height there, 12 metres if I remember correctly? They are lovely trees when in flower. Will have to now try and remember where I have noticed some of the Laburnums.


Conifers, at 2014-10-24 16:56:26, said:
Hi Rob - you'd need to check identities carefully. 'Common' Laburnum is actually far from common in cultivation now, and rarely exceeds 6 metres or so tall. Larger ones are almost all Alpine Laburnum L. alpinum, or (most frequently of all now) the hybrid between the two, Voss's Laburnum L. × watereri 'Vossii'. Distinguishing them is fairly tricky; I suspect the ones in these photos here are Voss's, but can't confirm it without close-up pics.

Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-10-24 16:57:51, said:
Hi Rob,

Intriguing that you stumbled upon this tree. Don't know how you see it, but in the 60's and 70's the babyboomers in Holland, judged this species as a thoroughly "burgerlijk" plant/tree. A lot of people (probably outside the world of agriculturalists, naturalist and dendrologists) defied this trees.

I used to be one of them. By now, I am a bit independent and judge everything without prejudice. And true, Laburnums can be very nice. That's what a lot of people in Asia think.


RedRob, at 2014-10-24 17:04:08, said:
Hello Wim, it is a very nice Laburnum, these trees always bring a smile, lift the mood because they are so bright even on a dull day when in flower.

Hello Conifers, probably too late now as the leaves will have gone but any that I measure I will get an ident for from the expert eyes on here.


TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, at 2014-10-28 18:13:42, said:
Rob, you probably know the very big thriving Laburnum in the Valley Gardens in Harrogate (near the north edge of the main park). This is L. alpinum. (There is one much bigger but collapsing one in Ireland, which I've not seen.) Generally L. alpinum grows better the further north you go and I've recorded 14m trees in Scotland. There should be a 15m one somewhere. (12m tree in the park at Wakefield was anagyroides and exceptional in its way, though it's moot whether we should really award champions for height for trees that grow no taller than this.)

RedRob, at 2014-10-29 18:29:56, said:
Hello Owen, not seen the Laburnum that you mention, I will have to try and find it which will probably be easier with foliage on.

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, at 2014-10-30 18:19:49, said:
I've just uploaded the Laburnum, as we've discussed it. It has a monumental quality to it - for a Laburnum.

RedRob, at 2014-11-02 17:20:37, said:
Hello Owen, I have walked up that way but must have walked past this. If I am up that way I will take the laser and point it at it. Reminds slightly of a Boabab.


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-10-24 17:06:19, said:
Hi I think this tree is the same as Chinese wingnut (Pterocarya stenoptera) '13346'

TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, at 2014-10-28 18:06:22, said:
Yes, it is the same tree. Easiest solution here would be to delete Wim's photo from '13346', upload it for '15304' and then delete the tree '13346'. I could do this, but then I think the photo would appear with a hyperlink to me instead?

Owen


Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-10-31 20:25:59, said:
Hi Owen,

The usual way of dealing with this kind of issues is that the older upload will be respected and that the newer tree will be adjusted to and merged with the older upload. I prefer that option.


Conifers, at 2014-10-31 20:47:09, said:
Agree with Wim, the older, first registering should be used.


williBremen, at 2014-10-24 11:46:08, said:
Wonderful tree!
Wim Brinkerink, at 2014-10-24 13:12:42, said:
Yes very specoal one. ! Your pictures are much better. Mine are older and I'm not sure but I think I used an old analog camera and digitalized the photo by scanning.

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