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Second largest Douglas Fir in Canada discovered
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Stephen Verge, am 2014-10-18 12:00:01, hat gesagt:
Hi All

Thought you might have seen this, but if not look below.

This appalling Forestry practice continues! This would not happen in the UK!

The tree is sadly doomed and will blow over in the next Pacific gale.

Trees such as these need the whole valley side to protect them.

Very sad!


Stephen Verge, am 2014-10-18 12:03:51, hat gesagt:
See 23/9/14 post to view it


Stephen Verge, am 2014-10-18 12:07:30, hat gesagt:
Sorry meant 23/3/14 post not easy to find.


Conifers, am 2014-10-18 13:46:08, hat gesagt:

KoutaR, am 2014-10-19 10:28:38, hat gesagt:
More photos:

(Click the first photo for further photos.)

And a video:

Stephen Verge, am 2014-10-20 09:57:42, hat gesagt:
Thanks Kouta

Great pictures/video.

How old 4-500 years?

This is not forestry and I thought the Amazon was bad!

Is there any hope for the Human Race!!


KoutaR, am 2014-10-20 15:57:50, hat gesagt:
You can sign an online petition here:

Stephen Verge, am 2014-10-21 07:47:24, hat gesagt:
Hello Kouta

Signed petition



Conifers, am 2014-10-18 13:52:02, hat gesagt:
Abies alba ;-)
Han van Meegeren, am 2014-10-20 22:05:04, hat gesagt:
I knew there had to be something wrong. Thanks.

jaknouse, am 2014-10-20 00:29:22, hat gesagt:
Pinus strobus is universally called "white pine" throughout its natural range. I have never in my life heard it called Weymouth pine.

Conifers, am 2014-10-20 08:04:22, hat gesagt:
More accurately, Eastern White Pine, so as to distinguish it from e.g. Pinus monticola (Western White Pine).

demercleden, am 2014-10-18 15:18:14, hat gesagt:
Is there another like this one? how old would she be? (at 3.6m girth, .. of the birch family)
Conifers, am 2014-10-18 15:46:39, hat gesagt:
Quite old, but impossible to give a good estimate as it is looks like an old pollard.

PS Species now classified as Frangula alnus

PPS Frangula is hermaphrodite, so 'it', not 'she' ;-)

demercleden, am 2014-10-18 16:09:49, hat gesagt:
Yes knew it was hermaphrodite, so preferred a 'she' or 'he' or 'he/she' as mood suggested. it is not a a rock!

MColombari1, am 2012-11-02 10:45:21, hat gesagt:
Joel Skok, am 2012-11-10 19:16:46, hat gesagt:
Must see this marvel of creation. But tell me, what is its condition? Live top? Much decay or dead wood?
Conifers, am 2012-11-10 20:58:51, hat gesagt:
Plenty of pics available with a google search (it's a famous tree). From these two, it has a good dense healthy crown, though looks like it's lost its top at some stage:

KoutaR, am 2012-11-10 21:03:47, hat gesagt:

The original top has snapped a long time ago, but the tree is still almost 60 m tall. Otherwise the tree is, as far as I remember, in a good shape.

Still more than this tree, I liked neighbouring Olympic National Park. One of the greatest park I have hiked. A primeval wilderness with giant Douglas-firs, Sitka spruces and western redcedars, wild rivers and snow-capped mountains.


KoutaR, am 2012-11-12 11:10:02, hat gesagt:

So you have been there and I advertised the park needlessly!


Baumfan1964, am 2014-10-16 20:19:09, hat gesagt:
wonderfull,I am deeply impressed

Conifers, am 2014-10-14 16:24:11, hat gesagt:
Pinus nigra ;-)
Rainer Lippert, am 2014-10-14 17:52:42, hat gesagt:
Hallo Conifers,

ich habe es gleich abgeändert. Danke für den Hinweis.

Viele Grüße,


Karlheinz, am 2014-09-29 14:43:03, hat gesagt:
Die Art Carya illinoinensis wird falsch sein, ist es Carya cordiformis? Nüsse habe ich noch keine gefunden.

The species Carya illinoinensis will be wrong, it is Carya cordiformis? Nuts I have not found yet.



Conifers, am 2014-09-29 17:31:04, hat gesagt:
Both the bark and the foliage are a good match for Carya cordiformis; compare e.g. here.
TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, am 2014-09-29 18:47:56, hat gesagt:
I agree, Carya cordiformis.
Karlheinz, am 2014-09-29 18:57:16, hat gesagt:
thanks, I have changed to cordiformis.
KoutaR, am 2014-10-01 13:40:03, hat gesagt:
I asked on the American NTS forum, what they think about the species identity. Follow the discussion here:
Conifers, am 2014-10-01 14:35:45, hat gesagt:
Thanks Kouta, it'll be interesting to see the consensus there.

For clarification for anyone who doesn't understand bbeduhn's comment 'it is not one of the "true" hickories', the hickory genus Carya is divided into two subgenera, the pecans (Cc. illinoinensis, cordiformis, aquatica, myristiciformis), and the true hickories (Cc. ovata, laciniosa, tomentosa, glabra, etc.).

KoutaR, am 2014-10-01 18:12:06, hat gesagt:
Conifers, thanks for the clarification. I did not understand that comment either.
Karlheinz, am 2014-10-03 08:36:56, hat gesagt:
Gestern bin ich nochmal hingefahren. Bei intensiver Suche konnte ich doch noch Nüsse finden. In diesem Park gibt es keine weiteren Hickory-Bäume. Die Nüsse bestätigen die Art Bitternuss (Carya cordiformis).

I went there again yesterday. With an intensive search, I could still find nuts.

In this park there are no other hickory trees. The nuts confirm the species bitter nut (Carya cordiformis).

KoutaR, am 2014-10-12 20:10:02, hat gesagt:
Now further messages on the topic on NTS-BBS:

Alberto Cuervo Flores, am 2014-10-09 18:18:45, hat gesagt:
Is it "tilia platyphyllos"?
Conifers, am 2014-10-09 21:42:49, hat gesagt:
Either Tilia platyphyllos or T. × europaea. A close-up of the underside of a leaf would help decide which.
Alberto Cuervo Flores, am 2014-10-10 13:51:05, hat gesagt:
Martin Tijdgat, am 2014-10-12 08:16:05, hat gesagt:
Leaf-form and color of leafs and twigs show this is Tilia platyphyllos for me.

Frank Gyssling, am 2014-10-07 13:34:15, hat gesagt:
Help Tree Friends. Someone can give me determine the species?

Needles: 8-13 mm; Pin: ~ 18 mm

greeting frank

Conifers, am 2014-10-07 18:51:53, hat gesagt:
Tsuga canadensis
Frank Gyssling, am 2014-10-08 09:07:21, hat gesagt:
Yes it might be true. All features except a vote sawn edge of the needles. I could not find it. it is smooth.

greeting frank

Frank Gyssling, am 2014-10-09 11:04:10, hat gesagt:
Hello conifers,

What exactly is the difference between Tsuga heterophylla and Tsuga canadensis?

greeting frank

Conifers, am 2014-10-09 15:01:27, hat gesagt:
Hi Frank,

There are small, but reliable differences in the shape of the cones. Also T. canadensis has a more irregular crown shape, T. heterophylla is usually very strongly conical.

Above, T. canadensis; below, T. heterophylla

Conifers, am 2014-10-08 15:06:39, hat gesagt:
Not sure what the tree (green foliage) is, possibly Pyrus sp., but it is covered in a dense Parthenocissus quinquefolia vine (Virginia Creeper; red foliage).
TheTreeRegisterOwenJohnson, am 2014-10-08 17:58:55, hat gesagt:
It has some apples on it (edible-looking). I'm surprised how healthy the bits of the tree underneath look, despite being so overgrown.
Conifers, am 2014-10-08 19:55:54, hat gesagt:
Yes, Malus domestica - I didn't look at the right part of the tree to see those apples!
Frank Gyssling, am 2014-10-08 20:25:36, hat gesagt:
It's a fun picture puzzle, right? ;-)


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